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Old 17-12-07, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorker View Post
The gist of my post is this:
You can be In authority, or you can be An authority.
You can be Put in authority via a coaching certificate. However you are only An authority when you can coach well and get results.

Lots of decent coaches as people have emphasized have never gotten their certification

I have every intention of getting every GNAS cert up to Level 3 at least, because then I have a foot in the political door and among other things I'm a sucker for tangible achievements. What I'm doing right now by the latest definitions is pretty much level 3 anyway, so I am probably going to be fairly bored for quite a Long time!

What fur said I think is a great point and is how I think things should go. Basically, they should get some GNAS officiators behind a desk and give you a coach to try and teach how to shoot. Obviously the coach him/herself is going to know every concievable messup in the book and you have to work around it.

Not only would there be a visual perspective of what you are doing from the desk but the coach you are coaching will be able to see how they feel and approve of you.

As much as anything, there is no way you can revise for something like this, not in depth anyway. All you can do is what you would presented with the situation at any other time - thus you will be marked on what you will actually do at a later date.

With the driving licence analogy, basically the issue is you have been terrifying the #### out of your driving instructor for a few months and are tested rigorously in a number of guises before and after you do your test. At the day of the test if you do anything silly you have failed and you have to resit.

As far as I am aware, a lot of the GNAS coaches aren't like this. I looked at the synopsis for a course... and was like, Huh. I hope it wasn't the coaches course I was looking at...
Day 1 - The basis of how to assemble and maintain a bow. Basic principles of how to use it and teach.
Day 2 - Extended discussion of teaching and instruction...

and so it went on. To be fair if it is anyting like that half the novices of our club could do it ;/

I can't let this pass without comment.

I agree with your assertions on authorities. But there are a great number of coaches who are both and hold the GNAS certificates. On the other hand there are some who are neither despite holding the certificate.

I Coach is someone who has recieved formal instruction, passsed an exam and holds a certificate to that effect. There may be bad Coaches who do not expand and followup on their knowledge and there are some good ones who spend a lot of time and effort keeping up to date with the latest techniques etc. But for the majority of us we do what we can with our limited resources and train the archers who trust our judgement to the best of our, rather limited, ability. Anyone else who 'coaches' archers are NOT Coaches, they are archers (or other sportsmen) who have decided to or have been asked to providing coaching/training to a fellow sportperson. The 2 should not be confused. I worked hard for my qualification and don't like it demeaned by other people claiming to be 'coaches' when they are not. The whole point of doing a Coaches course is to learn the techniques of analysis, communication, nutrition, psychology, physiology, bow setup and tuning, etc,etc. Sportsmen who are not Coaches, in the main will teach other sportsmen the systems, techniques and information that they have found to be relevent to their own performance; and, as we all know that may not be relevant to the sportsperson be 'coached'. There are, of course exceptions but, I suggest, the majority of us will never get anywhere near them on a regular basis.

I would suspect the syllabus you were looking at was the Level 1 Coaches course and is only designed to enable a Coach at that level to ttake beginner's courses and conduct them safely. Also I can assure you that what you are doing is definitely NOT Level 3 coaching!!!
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