FITA Field Rule Changes

[Stylisht]

Shooting times - reduced to 3 mins from 4 mins.

Scoring - X will now be scored as 6.

Opinions?

[grantwomack]

Time is never measured unless it is a finals. So no real hassle there.

X ---> 6? WTF? That's lame.

[TJ Mason]

I don't shoot enough Xs to be affected but I wonder what the thinking is behind it? The FITA news item suggests that it will lead to fewer ties, but simply counting Xs has the exact same effect. Seems a lot of disruption for a very minimal outcome.

[Shirt]

Timing: good.

X as 6: Starts with W, rhymes with tank.

It's like the Americans and 3D - oooh, it's not enough to have a 10 ring to hit, we've got to have a 12 ring for extra bonus points! And since people are getting a bit better, we'd better have a 14 ring as well just for the "pro's"... God give me strength.

Also, I thought FITA changing rules usually had some sort of "consultation" thing?

[josh 77]

What the hell! Thats stupid to get a worse score for getting the middle.
why bother to change shooting times when its good already?
seems screwed up to me!

[Stylisht]

Timing is not never measured - internationally it will be tough to keep to 3 mins on unmarked and they do time you. At home - it's never enforced anyway, agreed Grant.

6 will be interesting, lots of results would have been different this year.

TJ Mason - it changes scores more than you think.

Josh77 - this is FITA FIELD, top score is 5.

Will be harder to add up.

[N.Vodden]

thats just bloody weird, i read this earlier today as well and it doesnt make any sense. At a field shoot at deer park i went to, 3 archers were tied for the gents barebow category with the exact same score, so it went to X's and that clearly chose the order. If 2 might have had the same, it would go to 5's then... so wheres the problem?

From my newbie 'also ran' perspective, its just going to serve to widen the gap between my scores and the top scorers, and make it disheartening to look at results.

[360plus]

Here for information the present rules on timing and tied scores


When an athlete or a group of athletes are causing undue delay for that group or for other groups, the Judge observing this will warn the athlete or group verbally after which he and/or a fellow Judge may time the athlete, or group throughout the remainder of that round of the competition.
• In that case a time limit of four (4) minutes per target will be allowed from the time the athlete takes his position at the shooting peg, which he must do as soon as possible after the shooting position becomes available;
• A Judge, having observed an athlete exceed the time limit despite the above procedure, will caution him by a signed note on the scorecard, indicating the time and date of the warning;
• At the second and all subsequent warnings during that stage of the competition, the athlete's highest scoring arrow at the target will be forfeited;

In the event of a tie in score, the ranking of the results will be determined in the following order:
Greatest number of 5's (including inner 5’s);
Greatest number of X's (inner 5's);
After this athletes still tying will be declared equal.

[Desert Archer]

I'm on of those nasty Americans, but I don't shoot 3D so maybe I can be forgiven...

As for the new FITA Field rules, they're crap. How is the sport or the round improved by shortening the time limit. On the unmarked course 4 minutes isn't unreasonable and by the old rules it is only applied, "When an athlete or a group of athletes are causing undue dela..."

As for the 6 instead of just an X, again it's crap. The whole point is to break ties. there are two possible methods to break ties already. Why is it now an improvement to add points?

Dave

[Stylisht]

Originally Posted by Desert Archer

I'm on of those nasty Americans, but I don't shoot 3D so maybe I can be forgiven...

As for the new FITA Field rules, they're crap. How is the sport or the round improved by shortening the time limit. On the unmarked course 4 minutes isn't unreasonable and by the old rules it is only applied, "When an athlete or a group of athletes are causing undue delay..."

As for the 6 instead of just an X, again it's crap. The whole point is to break ties. there are two possible methods to break ties already. Why is it now an improvement to add points?

Dave

Cheers for that constructive opinion.

Shortening the time limit on the matchplay side of things was needed, 3 minutes for marked finals targets for the individuals and teams was a joke. In this respect, it will improve things. I cannot see it making much of a difference in the qualification/normal field shoot side of things - because unless groups are being unreasonably slow, they're not going to be timed.

6 for an X - is interesting, I don't so much like it. However, it will be better for the finals again. I can't see it making much of a difference apart from making scores more spread out, which will make things more interesting at the top; especially for compounds. You have got the wrong side of the stick if you think the change is to break ties - it is to prevent ties, and thus make the competition easier to understand.

I don't think they are "crap" improvements. I think it will make the finals more interesting, the televisual side of it more exciting... and provide new goals and new records to attain on national levels. On unmarked, 3 mins will be a chore sometimes, but then I don't take 10 mins - so I can't see it being a problem.

For me - the worst be will be adding up to 18 rather than 15... but in 6 months time, it won't make a difference, it will be the norm.

Chris