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Old 08-06-08, 11:02 PM
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Riser: Axis / ProElite
Limbs: Border Premier Carbon
Sight: ANTS
Stabilisers: ArcSysteme CarbonPro
Button: Arc Systeme
Bow String: D75
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For field archery either with my recurve or compound I use the width of my fingers to try to judge range. It works fairly well considering I don't get to do much field! I do this because I find that my estimation is way out between open fields and trees.
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Old 09-06-08, 02:12 PM
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Riser: Bernadini Cobra
Limbs: Border 70" HexV-H
Sight: None
Stabilisers: None
Button: Beiter
Bow String: Homespun 16 strand BCY-8125
Arrows: Axis FMJ 400 31"

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In a Marked Fita shoot I use gapshooting. Since it is on welldefined distances.
Wich you can train and train and train.
In any type of field shoot i use full instinctive, since I'm absolutley crappy at determine distances.
So it's back to point and pray for me!
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Old 11-06-08, 09:43 AM
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how many of you have custom sight windows, to help with more "sight marks"?
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Old 11-06-08, 04:16 PM
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Riser: Zenit 23 blue + Jager
Limbs: W&W XQ-1 longs 34(36)
Sight: "anti-TP device" ATM
Stabilisers: factory weight
Button: Shibuya DX goldtip
Bow String: 16str Majesty
Arrows: Redline 600 maybe stiff:)

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The problem is, if the archer changes anything in the shooting form, or arrows, or anything, the sight marks will mess up.

And of course most competitions (here) doesn't allow any marks on the inner side of the window for traditional and barebow divisions.
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Old 12-06-08, 10:18 AM
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im not talking marks on the back of the window, or anywhere else, im talking about the size of the window, or the shape of the top of the window.
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Old 12-06-08, 11:10 AM
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Limbs: ACS CX 62" 51#@28
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im not talking marks on the back of the window, or anywhere else, im talking about the size of the window, or the shape of the top of the window.
I think ZolcsiBB's point still stands, it's only going to be relevant to that particular set up of bow/arrows. Switch to a different bow or the same model with different poundage and you need to readjust your "sight marks".

IMO it's not a great long term solution as many people either shoot a few different bows or change bows now and again.
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Old 12-06-08, 09:12 PM
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  • Recurve
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Setup
Riser: Zenit 23 blue + Jager
Limbs: W&W XQ-1 longs 34(36)
Sight: "anti-TP device" ATM
Stabilisers: factory weight
Button: Shibuya DX goldtip
Bow String: 16str Majesty
Arrows: Redline 600 maybe stiff:)

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I have heard (some secondhand info, so don't rely on it) that a lot of Hungarian top level longbow (AFB made by Imre Nagy) shooters aim with the edge at the top of the window. It may be a reliable method when shooting short distances, as the gap is too big...

Since some archers questioned this shooting method, Imre makes his newer bows' windows with a radius, rather than edge.
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Old 13-06-08, 08:40 AM
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Using a custom sight windows

Gilf:
The distance between your eye and the top of the arrow for any serious competitor should be one of the more fixed items on there form.
This offers near horizontal arrow flight.
When the window is cut properly, then the archer has the use of:
These depend on arrow speed, but are good enough estimates and knolegde of you bow is essential for any top score to be achived
Bottom of the bunny at approx 12 yrds and under
the spot at 15 yards
white and black above spot for 20yrds
top of face for 25 yards
just over for 30 yards
then you start on the point of the arrow. taking you from 55 and onwards
then you can half the point to top of window for middle distances.

ZolcsiBB:
That radii is needed in AFB, but this is mainly a Recurve tactic to help gain some of the best scores over marked distances. We know this as on some of them, we made the custom windows for these people.

With the advent of lighter and faster bows, this method of sighting should take you out further on this near horizontal shooting....
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