European 3d Festival In France Next Year

[Karen]

Just out now - details of the EUROPEAN 3D ARCHERY FESTIVAL to be held at Montlouis sur Loire near TOURS in the Loire Valley here in France on the weekend of 30th June / 1st July next year.

It will include during the weekend two double rounds of 3d (40 targets per day ) - one day of the standard French 3d (2 arrows per target) and another day of the newly recognised 3dI (1 arrow per target) , with the best archers in each category going through to finals with prizes the second day.

There will be stands and displays and on the Saturday evening there will be a big competition for the ' Complete Archer' which will entail shooting 9 targets with three different types of bow (limited to 45 entrants and with the entry money going into the prize pot for the first three ) Then also a Country concert and general 'knees-up' as only the French can do it !


Accomodation is plentiful in this area, and I would think there will be camping on site anyway, though all the details on the site are not yet complete.

Also note - Ryanair do VERY cheap flights direct to Tours - especially if you book early ! Car hire is cheap here, usually.

The site is in English and French but not yet complete in English - for the entry forms etc look on the French bit at present.

The website is - http://www.3darcheryfestival.com

Entries will be limited to 500 archers (see website for the numbers in each category of bow) so if you think that you might want to come then do it now, because it will be filled very quickly.

If anyone wants to know more but doesn't have the French then please feel free to contact me through this forum and I'd be glad to help.

I'm not an organiser, but just an archer keen to see this sort of event spread so that we can all shoot for the pleasure as well as the winning !

Hope to see you all

[Fox]

Id just like to say that,

THE FRENCH REALLY KNOW HOW TO PUT ON AN ARCHERY TOURNAMENT!

This sounds fantstic and if its anything like the way they run target shoots, i bet it will be awsome. If you have never shot internationally, try it, its great, you will be seriously dissapointed when you come back to GNAS

[Karen]

Someone asked me what rules we will be shooting under -

Here in France we shoot 3d under the FITA recognised FFTA as well as the IFAA recognised FFTL.

This Festival is being run under the french FFTA 3d rules -

Plain 3d shoots are two arrows at the same peg with distances up to 35 metres

3di shoots are one arrow from a peg distance up to 30 metres ( you can find full rules for this on the fita website)

We have our own national rankings on the FFTA website for all three of the field disciplines ( other two are Tir Nature (Paper animal faces up to 40 m ) and the Tir Campagne (what you know in England as the FITA field rounds)

Do please come if you can - it will be a really good weekend and should be a true international shoot with people from all over and a chance to make new friends and have a great weekend holiday.

[Swaledale]

Originally Posted by Fox

Id just like to say that,

THE FRENCH REALLY KNOW HOW TO PUT ON AN ARCHERY TOURNAMENT!

This sounds fantstic and if its anything like the way they run target shoots, i bet it will be awsome. If you have never shot internationally, try it, its great, you will be seriously dissapointed when you come back to GNAS

OK Fox
What do you want to see?
We are trying to put on a local Derby which only covers alf of the bloody country!!!! and what do you know... we have 17 entries with four weeks left!
What do you have to do to persuade folks that field is where it is at!!!
Come on give me your best shot!!!
If this had been an NFAS do we would have had 80 by now from a society with a third of the membership of GNAS!

[Karen]

What is this shoot that you are running - if its gnas and field or 3d I wouldn't mind coming over for it !

Where do I find details of it ?

[Karen]

Come on - I've scoured all the things that I can find on the internet and can't find anything like you describe.

How can you expect entries if you don't tell anybody about it !

[Karen]

May have found it now - is it the Riggwelter shoot ?

If so then I can't see how this compares to the French Festival

October in Yorkshire shooting just the ordinary field target round (with a limited range of classes for the bows (ie no flatbows - my own particular bow style which is fully included in the fita classed longbow section, not excluded as in the UK !)) cannot surely be the same as shooting in Central France in May on a complete weekend of 3d which is barely recognised by the gnas, and made extremely limited as they do not use the international fita classes, but make up their own limitations to suit their own shooters. With all the associated events, displays, competitions and just the general ambiance - 500 archers make a whole lot better event than just 30 or 40, and the fact that this is a Festival of Archery and nt just the usual competition must make it a little more special.

Don't knock someone for saying how good another shoot might be - just make yours interesting enough to attract them to yours as well !

[Fox]

Iain

If the course is good word will spread among the FITA field posse and it will get a good reputation so thats maybe one for next year.

Except..........."The people in charge" have decided that next years teams will be decided on the total of the three highest scores which means no weight will be thrown in favour of who beat who on which course and if the course is good(hard/challenging/lots of slope etc) it will almost become one to be avoided?????????????

Stupid I know!

When I got on the team, I was advised to go to all the hardest courses and not worry too much about scores and it worked. Currently the best course in this country for FITA field is probably Kendal but that suffers a low turnout due to it always clashing with the Lileshall Fita star in May. BUT it gives you the experience so that you will rarely meet anything that is an unknown.

And a final point.

Er, a huge majority of the Fita field shooters in this country are southerners so they dont feel like travelling. Look at how many shoots are down south, Woodstock,Raven, Crawley etc, all the shoots in Ssouth Wales, Pentref, Dinefwr, Carmarthen etc. They just dont need to come north to do a lot of shooting whereas I have HAD to travel the length and breadth of the land.

[Swaledale]

Originally Posted by Karen

May have found it now - is it the Riggwelter shoot ?

If so then I can't see how this compares to the French Festival

October in Yorkshire shooting just the ordinary field target round (with a limited range of classes for the bows (ie no flatbows - my own particular bow style which is fully included in the fita classed longbow section, not excluded as in the UK !)) cannot surely be the same as shooting in Central France in May on a complete weekend of 3d which is barely recognised by the gnas, and made extremely limited as they do not use the international fita classes, but make up their own limitations to suit their own shooters. With all the associated events, displays, competitions and just the general ambiance - 500 archers make a whole lot better event than just 30 or 40, and the fact that this is a Festival of Archery and nt just the usual competition must make it a little more special.

Don't knock someone for saying how good another shoot might be - just make yours interesting enough to attract them to yours as well !

Karen
I'm not sure if you are thinking I am having a go or not, I can asure you I am not. If this is what it takes and by the sound of it it probably is, then the people to convince are the governing body. GNAS are not noted for treating their Cinderella section with too much respect but there is always hope!
I have just come back from the NFAS National Champs, no 3D there either but still over 500 archers there to enjoy it!!!

[robtattoo]

Originally Posted by Swaledale

If this had been an NFAS do we would have had 80 by now from a society with a third of the membership of GNAS!

Hmmmmmm......makes you think, doesn't it. Maybe because the NFAS has a class for ALL bow/arrow combinations, maybe because the NFAS doesn't have a dress code, maybe because the NFAS is more 'user friendly' & doesn't ruin the simplicity of field with a lot of rules & regulations, mybe because when the NFAS says 'Compound Unlimited' they actually mean it, rather than imposing draw-weight restrictions, maybe because they recognise flatbows as a class, maybe because NFAS shoots are friendly, sociable affairs & not all gussied up with titles like 'Record status' or 'Arrowhead status'
(WTF is Record status anyway?? I'd read the GNAS rulebook to find out, but I'm only expecting to live for another 40 years or so, so probably won't have time...)

Just a thought.


ps. I'm not having a pop at you in any way, shape or form Swaledale, just the GNAS for not allowing me to shoot competetively in ANY of their field disciplines (I'd shoot compound U/L but it's a 70#er)