Extenders

[Barry C]

Apogee make a 7 inch but i dont know who stocks them but they are a samick owned company i believe. Many top archers make their own 7 inch one from chopped up x10 short rods which arent exactly commin these days. Probably the easiest and cheapest and best way is the chopped up beiter short rod converted into a extender.

[SLOWHAND]

Varying the length of the extender has a much greater effect than varying the length of the long rod. A 1" difference in long rod length is hardly noticable but 1" difference in the extender can give a very different feel to the balance of the bow. I use a Beiter extender and bought some extra rods so that I could play around with different lengths of extender and twins.With the infinite/synergy set up I preferred 12" twins and a 4" extender, with the Helix/g3's I felt it needed a bit more weight further forward so with this set up I have a 5" extender and 11" twins. When I first tried twins I thought that I had wasted my money since I coudn't feel a lot of difference, but I stuck with them and after about a month tried shooting without them, THATS when I noticed the benefits they give. The stabilisation on a bow has to considered as a whole system and changing one part of it will make a difference to the whole. To give an example of this, I was shooting yesterday at a tournament and a lady asked me to have a feel of her bow and tell her what I thought. The bow had a very light long rod of medium length with no extender and quite long, heavy twins set at quite an accute angle. When I picked up the bow it felt to me that the CG needed pushing forward by a fair bit and I told her so in a very diplomatic way. Yes, she said but I couldn't handle any more weight on the bow. I explained that by reducing the weight, length and angle of her twins would have the desired effect without adding any weight.

Although I have a 4 inch extender, the bow riser I use - W & W Xpert has a built in 4 inch extender already so I guess I use 8 inches.

Still not sure whether I need the extra extender and may yet stick with the one that is part of the bow.

[grantwomack]

I'm shooting with 5" extender on both my indoor and outdoor bows. I did have a 4" extender on my outdoor setup but felt the twins were bringing the centre of gravity a little too far back. I tried 6" but it was too "mushy" on release. 5" works just nicely!

[LineCutter]

OK, I'm tempted to try an extender. But how do I decide which length to try? (Or do I just try them all & balance "mushy" vs. belly heavy?)

[Shirt]

Buy a 4" and see how it feels.

Quick and dirty guide based on what feels right to me:
28"+ draw, 38+# at full draw, 4" extender and 90 degree v-bar.
28"+ draw, 42+# at full draw, 5" extender and 90 degree v-bar.
30"+ draw, 44+# at full draw, 6" extender and 70 degree v-bar.

[Rik]

Originally Posted by LineCutter

OK, I'm tempted to try an extender. But how do I decide which length to try? (Or do I just try them all & balance "mushy" vs. belly heavy?)

Well... The 'mushiness' will depend on the type of extender, as well as the length. I've got a 5" X10 extender, nothing mushy about that....

[grantwomack]

Mine is also the 5" X10 extender but there was an extra 1" bolt attached to it (Shirt used it that way before I got it from him). It could be because I have more than usual weight at the end of my longrod that it felt odd. The 5" extender on its own feels nice now though.

[JohnK]

X10 extenders . . . *Sigh*

I know of an archer who has two 6in X10 extenders and he doesn't even use them any more. I'm second on the list should he ever decide to get rid of them, but I'm not holding out much hope. Maybe one day.

The 6in Beiter works very well, although I reckon a 5in would be okay too.

[wingate_52]

Doinker split assembly with Artem TM4 and Win&Win formax rods. Works for me.
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