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View Poll Results: Raffles?
The traditional way works - raffle funds are a "tip" for a good tournament 46 74.19%
Increase tournament fees and drop the raffle 6 9.68%
Increase tournament fees and keep the raffle 10 16.13%
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Old 13-12-05, 10:53 PM
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Aren't most of the costs of such an event there anyway, regardless of numbers?
No, we don't buy targets or faces for events as we already have them (we keep a large supply in stock) and thus our costs vary with the number of competitors. The highest being medals.

No offense but it sounds like UK archers are cheapskates. $1.50 too much for lunch? $5 to enter a tournament?

I suspect what is required is that clubs need to start setting a set entry fee and forcing the prices up. We made over $1500 from our State Field titles without counting catering. (our goal was to break even)
We even charged less than the previous field.

So here is the question, have your club's gotten into a rutt of trying to be too cheap, when in this modern age you don't need to be?
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Old 13-12-05, 11:08 PM
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No, we don't buy targets or faces for events as we already have them (we keep a large supply in stock) and thus our costs vary with the number of competitors. The highest being medals.

No offense but it sounds like UK archers are cheapskates. $1.50 too much for lunch? $5 to enter a tournament?

...

So here is the question, have your club's gotten into a rutt of trying to be too cheap, when in this modern age you don't need to be?

I would agree with this Archery is a very cheap sport to compete in. In a triathlon, an event I compete in when I am feeling fitter, the standard cost for a minor event is around £25. The sport is not doing itself any favours by pricing itself on the cheap. It does surprise me that for a full day it only costs £7 to compete in a York/Hereford.
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Old 13-12-05, 11:41 PM
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Marcus - don't forget it's pounds not dollars, so $3.50 for lunch and $12 for entries.
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Old 14-12-05, 03:20 AM
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Yeah I thought about that Shirt, and even that is dirt cheap by our standards. Also it's all relative isn't it?

Average lunch for us is around $5-$7 and most events 1 day entry fee is $15-$20
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No, we don't buy targets or faces for events as we already have them (we keep a large supply in stock) and thus our costs vary with the number of competitors. The highest being medals.
You may have large stocks, but I would think that most clubs buy in for tournaments

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No offense but it sounds like UK archers are cheapskates.
None taken, but being sold something cheap doesn't make you a cheapskate - I pay what the organisers ask. I'd still pay if it were more realistic.

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Old 14-12-05, 08:57 AM
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I dont know about many clubs catering costs etc, but we try to cover the materials and then round it up to a sensible amount, the cost of fuel must be the biggest daily expense for a shoot?

But Marcus is right in that we are trying to present a 'professional' sport but on a very small budget.

If you dont have to hire facilities then it is easier to keep the entrey fees down.
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Old 14-12-05, 09:23 AM
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If you dont have to hire facilities then it is easier to keep the entry fees down.
How many clubs in the UK have facilities over and above what they use as a club? Many on AIUK seem to barely manage as it is - particularly indoor.
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Old 14-12-05, 11:44 AM
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The kettle and an electric cooker are well used at shoots. The extra facilities would be wonderful but how to fund them?

There seems to be a problem when appling for funding because Archery isnt a recognised sport?

Any one had any experience of getting grants to improve club facilities!
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As a recently appointed tournament organisor I would be interested in knowing what people would consider reasonable for tournament fees. Maybe worth having another poll.

As far as a 'professional' image archery is a long way off that in the UK from the numerous events I have attended in my first year. This is not saying the events were not fun, but just a bit 'summer fete' in the way they are put together. Lots of delicious cake and tea (which my waistline can clearly show), but serious competition seems to be frowned upon.
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There seems to be a problem when appling for funding because Archery isnt a recognised sport?

Any one had any experience of getting grants to improve club facilities!
Here's one club that got funding this year.:icon_mrgr

http://www.archery-interchange.com/f...read.php?t=316

The grant was also used to buy a storage container and to pay for hardcore for the cricket club car park, in order for the container to be delivered.

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