Classification.......How to?

[john rowland]

Originally Posted by General Dogs

OK, ignore the headline - I already know that to attain classifications you need to score above a certain amount on particular rounds three times. I am also aware that you can get up to First Class during club shoots (ie not in competitions).

What I want to know is do you have to actually do anything "official" to claim the classification?

It is up to your clubs record officer to keep your scores and award you when you have earned them, but they should also inform your county of the fact that you have. John

[Murray]

Originally Posted by john rowland

It is up to your clubs record officer to keep your scores and award you when you have earned them, but they should also inform your county of the fact that you have. John

Really? So where does it say that in the Shooting and Admin procedures?

I think you'll find the regs only state "The use of the classification scheme by Clubs is optional and the administration of it, up to Bowman standard, shall be in the hands of the Club Officials" there is no mention of records officers or county information. That may be the way YOUR club manages it, but it's not a requirement from anything I've read.

[john rowland]

Originally Posted by Murray

Really? So where does it say that in the Shooting and Admin procedures?

I think you'll find the regs only state "The use of the classification scheme by Clubs is optional and the administration of it, up to Bowman standard, shall be in the hands of the Club Officials" there is no mention of records officers or county information. That may be the way YOUR club manages it, but it's not a requirement from anything I've read.

I cannot put my hands on the regs at the moment but in all the clubs that i have been in , it has always fallen to the records to inform the committee of classification , my assumption that is the correct way to do it and it is the way that i did it when i was records officer JOHN

[Murray]

Sorry John, but your assumption is incorrect. For the sake of clarity and avoidance of doubt, it's best to check your assumptions if you can before putting them on here as fact, or make it clear you're not actually aware of the rules/procedures.

[narrowboat]

Originally Posted by Murray

Really? So where does it say that in the Shooting and Admin procedures?

I think you'll find the regs only state "The use of the classification scheme by Clubs is optional and the administration of it, up to Bowman standard, shall be in the hands of the Club Officials" there is no mention of records officers or county information. That may be the way YOUR club manages it, but it's not a requirement from anything I've read.

But i thought a club official was the records officer? YOURS Tim (records officer)

[Robin the Hood]

I wonder this comes from simular to our region;
As soon as the beginners are getting near the end of the course and can reach a certain distance Records Officer asks for scores.
This is because they probably have a match next month and can't find a full team

[Murray]

Originally Posted by narrowboat

But i thought a club official was the records officer? YOURS Tim (records officer)

Not all club officials are records officers. The point is it's the clubs decision, it's not a requirement that the records officer (if there is one) gets involved, nor that they inform the county.

Murray (Secretary, Coach, Records Officer, Grants organiser, Council liaison officer...)

[Flying Whale]

I agree with Murray. That is the way most clubs do it, but there is no requirement to do so.

As with all of this talk to your club.

[BowSurfer]

Originally Posted by Murray

Not all club officials are records officers. The point is it's the clubs decision, it's not a requirement that the records officer (if there is one) gets involved, nor that they inform the county.

Murray (Secretary, Coach, Records Officer, Grants organiser, Council liaison officer...)

While the debate is on, and just to keep it interesting, am I correct in thinking that it IS a requirement to notify the club records officer of all full rounds shot for handicap purposes? The handicap scheme, as opposed to the clasification scheme, is more official and affects ratings at handicap competitions and otherwise one could fiddle the system by ignoring some good scores until it mattered in a match.
Also, as a matter of interest, in competitions wher wards are given according to classsification (e.g. Herts County Western) how do the organisers ratify the classifications - do they just take the word of the archer, or confirm through the club, or just wait to see if anyone disputes it?

[tel]

Originally Posted by BowSurfer

...am I correct in thinking that it IS a requirement to notify the club records officer of all full rounds shot for handicap purposes?

Yes

Also, as a matter of interest, in competitions wher wards are given according to classsification (e.g. Herts County Western) how do the organisers ratify the classifications - do they just take the word of the archer, or confirm through the club, or just wait to see if anyone disputes it?

I guess its taken on trust - only ever got one 'class' award and it was not checked with anyone else.