bow influence on arrow

[Zanda]

Silly question time, at what point does the bow NOT have any influence on the arrow ?
My Hoyt Ultra38 has a string stopper, once the string hits the stopper, I presume that the arrow will have left the building ? is my thinking right on this or have i missed something ?
I'm trying to work out at what point, with the bow arm dropping away, after loose, will it cease to be a problem, regarding influencing the arrow.
At my club the thinking is hold the bow on target until the arrow hits, with having shoulder problems, letting the bow go down as soon as possible after loose is a lot easier on me, so your thought please guys and gals

[pwiles1968]

When the string hits the stopper the arrow is still knocked to the string, very very shortly after it has left the bow, too short a time for you to react.

I think that the idea about holding the arm up is so that you do not start to drop it before the release, if you are consciously loosing the arrow your brain could be be loosing (activating release), dropping shoulder and gripping the bow, all at the same time.

[geoffretired]

Having watched some video recently, the arrow is free from the bow as the string reaches roughly its bracing height.Roughly, not precisely.
What you do then, can't change the course of the arrow.
The bit that really matters, I suppose, is what you are doing while the arrow is still on the string. Watching hi speed video makes it look as though the arrow has cleared the bow well before the archer's follow through shows any real signs of movement. Perhaps that's because the archer doesn't accelerate quickly enough to show the signs early enough.Perhaps there is movement that is too slow and/or too small to show on the vids I have seen.
For some archers, the movements are there before the release, a sort of twitch/collapse, often unknown to the archer.
If the archer intends to hold the bow arm out towards the target till the arrow lands, there is a bit more chance that it will not drop too early.

[Jerry Tee]

Look for the arrow through the scope, You just be able to see a flash of the colour of the fletchings coming up from the bottom of the scope as the arrow rises to cut the sight line.At short range I can se my arrow hit throught the scope.

[GeoffT]

Originally Posted by Jerry Tee

.At short range I can see my arrow hit throught the scope.

Wow, your arm must be like a solid plank. Surely the bow should move forward out of the hand before the arrow hits..........maybe I'm wrong, I'll have to see what happens to my bow tomorrow night.

[Marcus26]

I can't see my arrow through my scope, my bow is down and to the left by that point.
The arrow leaves the string at brace height as Geoff said. The string stopper won't help accuracy, just takes out residual vibration.

[Schme1440]

Originally Posted by Marcus26

The string stopper won't help accuracy, just takes out residual vibration.

There is slow mo vid on youtube to prove this. The arrow leaves the bow before the string reaches the BH.

[flamingbladerider]

At an average speed of 300 ft sec, at 100 yards it takes one full second to reach the target. Your bow is held up longer, sighting and then releasing, so if you cand hold the bow for 1 second then switch to darts

[Jerry Tee]

Originally Posted by GeoffT

Wow, your arm must be like a solid plank. Surely the bow should move forward out of the hand before the arrow hits..........maybe I'm wrong, I'll have to see what happens to my bow tomorrow night.

Not really that solid I was talking about short ranges of 20yds or so. An arrow gets to the target in a very short space of time at that range. It maybe just me but if I know that I am going to look through the sight for the arrow before that shot it helps me to keep the bow arm up during the shot.

[Devon_Archer]

the main problem is if you are an archer who anticipates the shot and drops or moves their arm sideways to see where it hits

in other words they are wanting to see where their arrow lands immediately so subconsciously the archer moves their bow arm actually at the point of finger release or triggering the release

keeping the bow arm up until "you hear the thud" is an exercise to stop this happening