Axis FMJ's accessories

[kennls]

Hi

I have begun shooting outdoors, but have so far lost 3 Navigators on 90m. Its my first outdoor season, so I have to get used to wind, cold and all that I never experienced with a bow indoors.

Outdoor arrows seem to be quite fragile, since my 3 Navigators (430s) disintegrated, just hitting the grass. Since the arrows are quite expensive just for learning, I have considered the Axis FMJs or Navi FMJs (The Navi FMJs because of reading what Watch_Man and Marcus26 wrote about them). I'm not sure if the FMJs can better stand for a "nature trip" than the regular Navis could?

Anyway the Axis FMJs are only half the price, so I could loose 2 arrows for the price of 1 ;-)

But looking at the Easton web site, it seems that the points and nocks are only hunting screw ins and so forth. No target points or nocks.

Are any here using the Axis FMJs for target and which point and nocks are they using?

/Kenn

[daz650]

axis fmj arrows are no good for compound i bought some and found that they were to heavy for shooting distance's like 80, 90 & 100 yards so i would stay away from them...

Regards Darren

[kennls]

From the similar threads in the bottom, it seems that Marcus26 has used them for the nationals, so it seems they are used by compound archers for the long distances.

It just what points and nocks to use. I hate to see about 12 £ go, every time I have a "learning experience".

Looking at the Easton selection chart I'm right between a 340 and 400 shaft, depending on the point weight. My draw length is 29.5 and my bow is just under 60 pounds, not sure how much extra my arrows should be.

/Kenn

[wanshu]

Originally Posted by daz650

axis fmj arrows are no good for compound i bought some and found that they were to heavy for shooting distance's like 80, 90 & 100 yards so i would stay away from them...

Regards Darren

Sorry to disagree with you Darren, It depends on the arrow spine used and the poundage of the bow etc. Even then strange things happen when you try them as I did.
My experience was a total surprise based on the spine and poundage rating from Easton.

I have been spending time recently getting my sight marks for 100yds, 90metres, 80yds and 70metres. My Axis FMJ's have been no problem at all. Yes they are a little heavier than some arrows and they do require a slightly lower sight mark to get them there but thats all. For the price you will struggle to find a better arrow especially when your new to the joys of the Darkside.

My Axis FMJ's are 30" 500's and they were originally bought for my recurve and the sight marks were only 2 points on the scale lower than my thin carbons. To my delight they shoot fine with a 60lb compound. Had a fellow archer stand behind to watch them, they are fine. Being 500's they are only 8.9gpi, therefore lighter overall than the 400's etc

For anyone looking for suitable points for the Axis:
17/64 - Easton SIB Points
specifically to fit the Axis Full Metal Jackets. 50-125grn
Per Dozen: £4.79 Including VAT at 17.5% at Bowsports

[daz650]

are you sure that spine is right i shoot at 50lb 30" arrows and my spine on those was only just 400

[daz650]

don't get me wrong stuart i thought they where good arrows at shorter distances i just could'nt get on with them at longer

[Alex]

AXIS FMJs are fine for target. I have been using them for a couple of years now and have no problems. At distance the sightmarks are a bit on the low side, but they are a heavy arrow. The sighmark will depend upon your face characteristics and release used as the important factor is the distance between the peep and knocking point.

At 100 yards I need to bring the sight bar in towards the bow to get the scope on target, my bow is only at about 52# so I see no problems with a bow at 60# ish.

Now to the question
Bullet points are available in a range of sizes, they are screw in but that poses no problems.
The shafts come with X-nocks installed and unless you are a rather good archer (I'm not that good) these are fine, although some prefer beiter nocks.

As you are new to outdoor compound, I say go for it!

Alex.

[wanshu]

Yes thats right Daz, I had a shock, expecting them to hit the shelf and whip themselves but no they shot ok. The oints are only 90 grains which will help the spine rating as well. They shoot well.
The bow is 60lb, I bought the bow from a senior coach at the club who is the same size as myself. He had it set it up for competition max weight.
I mentioned the arrows to the coach and he said that it's always worth trying and that the Easton spine chart is not the holy grail. Some Easton arrows are actually stiffer than the figures quoted. My arrows are proof of that.

[wanshu]

Originally Posted by daz650

don't get me wrong stuart i thought they where good arrows at shorter distances i just could'nt get on with them at longer

No thats fine Daz. We all have our own tale to tell and your's is relevent to you. We are all individual and with differing characteristics in archery, size and shape of face can dictate our resting/reference point.
I have been working at keeping mine lower and this has helped me with sight marks I'm sure. Each to their own.
Try the 500's if you know of anyone who has them for your length.

Stu

[kennls]

Depending on the length and point weight, it seems I'm right between a 340 and a 400 axis fmj shaft.

My draw length is 29.5", I'm right under 60 pounds. Not sure of which extra length my arrow should have over the draw length, so any recomendation is appreciated.

So it seems I have 2 options, from the Easton Selction Chart on their homepage:

1: 400 arrow with a point at 100 grain or under in 30" length

2: 340 arrow with a point at 100 grain or over in 31" length

But is a 100 grain to much or should I go lower. I'm looking for an allround arrow, I can use in the danish weather (like the english )

Kenn