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Old 08-05-08, 07:23 PM
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Question Will i have troubles reaching 70mts?

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I'm thinking on buying some Axis FMJ 400, but i dont know if i will have troubles reaching 70 meters, as they are heavy. I'm shooting 56/57#, with a 27" DL. The specs of the bow says that he reaches 305fps IBO. So, would i reach 70 meters easily?
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Old 08-05-08, 08:08 PM
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I shot 400s last year out of a Switchback 57lbs@28 inch without any distance problems upto 90M.
Great arrow, just a pain to draw in the wet.
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Old 08-05-08, 08:12 PM
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Hi,

I'm thinking on buying some Axis FMJ 400, but i dont know if i will have troubles reaching 70 meters, as they are heavy. I'm shooting 56/57#, with a 27" DL. The specs of the bow says that he reaches 305fps IBO. So, would i reach 70 meters easily?
Why don't you try shooting 70mts? Then you'll know if you can hit it or not...
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Old 08-05-08, 08:13 PM
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You should be able to reach 70m. I shoot 400's with 125gn points, 27" draw and bow set at 55lbs and I can reach 70m ok (scope is ow and sight right in).
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Old 10-05-08, 11:41 AM
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Hi,

I'm thinking on buying some Axis FMJ 400, but i dont know if i will have troubles reaching 70 meters, as they are heavy. I'm shooting 56/57#, with a 27" DL. The specs of the bow says that he reaches 305fps IBO. So, would I reach 70 meters easily?
Quite a few things here. For starters I can shoot 70M with 27" long AXIS FMJ's 500 spine 90gn points on 50lb medium cams, but I can't get to 80M because the sight becomes too low and the arrow trajectory is painfully high. So I have slightly lighter FMJ's but less poundage than you if that helps you (probably not alot!)

Coming onto your point. There are two things that will prevent you reaching a distance 1) your sight gets so low it intereferes with the arrow. 2) the trajectory becomes so high that it is likely to be greatly effected by wind.

On the first point, it is not just the bow poundage and arrow weight that comes into play, how you anchor plays a big part. Where you anchor effects where your peep sight ends up which has a very big influence on how high the sight ends up being. If you move your peep up a few millimeters it effectively tilts the bow up for the same sight position. So anchoring higher will give greater sight clearance. Because of this its impossible to say exactly what will work for you.

Regarding trajectory its a case of either increasing bow poundage or reducing arrow weight. One question on this when you say you have a draw length of 27" is that AMO? If it is you could probably shoot with 26" arrows or at a push even shorter. My AMO draw length is 28.5 and I shoot with 27" arrows.

According to easton arrow selector (follow this link Easton Archery | Shaft Selector) If you were to shoot 26" arrows with 125gn points out of a hard cam bow with your poundage, you only need AXIS 500's. With these given Your arrow length would be shorter than mine and your poundage higher you should be OK.

I suggest you work out exactly what arrow length you can get away with and then visit the tuning chart.
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Quite a few things here. For starters I can shoot 70M with 27" long AXIS FMJ's 500 spine 90gn points on 50lb medium cams, but I can't get to 80M because the sight becomes too low and the arrow trajectory is painfully high. So I have slightly lighter FMJ's but less poundage than you if that helps you (probably not alot!)

Coming onto your point. There are two things that will prevent you reaching a distance 1) your sight gets so low it intereferes with the arrow. 2) the trajectory becomes so high that it is likely to be greatly effected by wind.

On the first point, it is not just the bow poundage and arrow weight that comes into play, how you anchor plays a big part. Where you anchor effects where your peep sight ends up which has a very big influence on how high the sight ends up being. If you move your peep up a few millimeters it effectively tilts the bow up for the same sight position. So anchoring higher will give greater sight clearance. Because of this its impossible to say exactly what will work for you.

Regarding trajectory its a case of either increasing bow poundage or reducing arrow weight. One question on this when you say you have a draw length of 27" is that AMO? If it is you could probably shoot with 26" arrows or at a push even shorter. My AMO draw length is 28.5 and I shoot with 27" arrows.

According to easton arrow selector (follow this link Easton Archery | Shaft Selector) If you were to shoot 26" arrows with 125gn points out of a hard cam bow with your poundage, you only need AXIS 500's. With these given Your arrow length would be shorter than mine and your poundage higher you should be OK.

I suggest you work out exactly what arrow length you can get away with and then visit the tuning chart.
so true about the anchor and peep soite position, I had a similar problem. moved the peep a bit and bob's your uncle, 100 yards no problem, no hitting the scope.
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Old 10-05-08, 01:50 PM
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Quite a few things here. For starters I can shoot 70M with 27" long AXIS FMJ's 500 spine 90gn points on 50lb medium cams, but I can't get to 80M because the sight becomes too low and the arrow trajectory is painfully high. So I have slightly lighter FMJ's but less poundage than you if that helps you (probably not alot!)

Coming onto your point. There are two things that will prevent you reaching a distance 1) your sight gets so low it intereferes with the arrow. 2) the trajectory becomes so high that it is likely to be greatly effected by wind.

On the first point, it is not just the bow poundage and arrow weight that comes into play, how you anchor plays a big part. Where you anchor effects where your peep sight ends up which has a very big influence on how high the sight ends up being. If you move your peep up a few millimeters it effectively tilts the bow up for the same sight position. So anchoring higher will give greater sight clearance. Because of this its impossible to say exactly what will work for you.

Regarding trajectory its a case of either increasing bow poundage or reducing arrow weight. One question on this when you say you have a draw length of 27" is that AMO? If it is you could probably shoot with 26" arrows or at a push even shorter. My AMO draw length is 28.5 and I shoot with 27" arrows.

According to easton arrow selector (follow this link Easton Archery | Shaft Selector) If you were to shoot 26" arrows with 125gn points out of a hard cam bow with your poundage, you only need AXIS 500's. With these given Your arrow length would be shorter than mine and your poundage higher you should be OK.

I suggest you work out exactly what arrow length you can get away with and then visit the tuning chart.
Didnt' know about AMO draw lenght. So my AMO DL is 28,25" (big surprise, the bow is set to a 27" draw in the module ) , and my True DL (groove of the nock to the low pivot point of the grip) is 26,75". That means that i can't use arrows shorter than 27", in a safe way, no?
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True DL (groove of the nock to the low pivot point of the grip) is 26,75".
That should give you an AMO of 28.5" which is the same as mine so 27" arrows may be about right.

I usually aim to have half an inch (12.5mm) of shaft excluding point hanging over the front of the arrow rest just in case I overdraw. Most arrow rests I have used sit back from the neck of the grip by about half an inch.
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I have 26.5" Axis FMJ 500's with 90Grn Points and have been using these for over 18 Months, I have used 3 Bows with them Hoyt Cybertec, Bowtech Tribute and the UltraElite, all were set a little above 50# and all have reached 90M. The arrows are very heavy and you may have to pull your sight bar in, as long as you do not have a particularly high anchor you should be fine for 70M.
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I have 26.5" Axis FMJ 500's with 90Grn Points and have been using these for over 18 Months, I have used 3 Bows with them Hoyt Cybertec, Bowtech Tribute and the UltraElite, all were set a little above 50# and all have reached 90M. The arrows are very heavy and you may have to pull your sight bar in, as long as you do not have a particularly high anchor you should be fine for 70M.
Thats food for thought, as your arrows are only half an inch lesss than mine and I can't manage 80M at 50lbs. Sounds like I am going to have to play around with my anchor (just when I was starting to get things back together again )
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