to touch or not to touch: Sting dilemmas

[phil_r_58]

Originally Posted by archery_mum

The way I was taught by John Dudley was to shoot with the string touching the tip of my nose and coming into the corner of my mouth. The main issue with the nose touch is that you can get left/right variation if you don't consistantly put the string in the same place on your nose.

This works for me.

I should add that I have the greatest respect for James Park's work and his books on compound setup and shooting should be part of everyones collection.

Like you say Wendy, it works for you. We are all different in makeup, so will vary in anchor points. The keyword, within reason will always be as long as whatever you do is CONSISTENT. Trouble is, that's the tricky bit.

The girl in the first picture is not having an anchor problem IMHO, she has way too long a draw length set. Having said that Wendy, watch Mike H next time you see him shoot, or look at some of the pics Trev took at the field shoot. He anchors quite a way back. He always has. He also leans back slightly at full draw, again, he always has. But consistently.

[Random_guy]

I have issues with facial contact as well, particularly touching the string to my nose. My issue is that i have to anchor behind my jaw to get the string on my nose, and even then i have to tilt my head forwards.

To get the string on my nose anchoring under my jaw (as i've been advised to do) i have to tilt my head so far forwards that my peep ends up having to be ridiculusly low! I've already got the d-loop as short as i can get it....

I've settled at the moment for having a tiny bit of facial contact at the corner of my mouth, anchoring behind my jaw (the DL is a bit long at the moment). I'm planning on shortening the draw to make it more comfortable to anchor under the jaw, but then i'll have no contact at all..... :s

[Little Miss Purple]

Originally Posted by not dead yet

marcus in your pictures dave cousins looks remarkably like nicky simpson.

only you could mistake the tag lines belonging to which picture!!

[Marcus26]

Originally Posted by phil_r_58

Like you say Wendy, it works for you. We are all different in makeup, so will vary in anchor points. The keyword, within reason will always be as long as whatever you do is CONSISTENT. Trouble is, that's the tricky bit.

I really dislike comments like that.
1) Wendy has not shot 1440 yet, so something in her shooting is inconsistent.
2) If you have something in your form that IS a source of inconsistency then you should get rid of it.

Most people focus on the nose in these discussions when it is the bit that does no harm. The damage comes from touching the side of the chin. As the release fires the string moves in towards the face by 2mm. If you are pressing hard against your face and change that movement by just 1mm you will shoot a 9 or an 8. This is a fact.
You can have it lightly touching the face, it's the ones that push the string hard into the face that will see the damage.
If you want to know if you are getting this happening there is a simple test.

Shoot a shot into the 10.
Next shot pull your face away from the string. Lean your head and aim and execute correctly.
If your arrow impacts to the right of the first then you have facial string interference.
Wendy can also do the same test in her Hooter Shooter. If she has no face contact the HS will hit the same spot as she does without sight adjustment.

I have issues with facial contact as well, particularly touching the string to my nose. My issue is that i have to anchor behind my jaw to get the string on my nose, and even then i have to tilt my head forwards.

Then don't do it.
So many people give themselves poor technique by worrying about something that really doesn't help.

Consistent 1360 MENS FITA's from this girl. No nose contact.

And this one just shot a 1346 MENS yesterday after only a few years in the sport.



With anchor point it's not the string on face contact that matters, it's the release hand on face contact that makes the difference.

[Little Miss Purple]

I'll put money on Wendy shooting those scores if she didn't have the british weather to contend with (even though she shot a cracker at bronte)

[Marcus26]

Originally Posted by Little Miss Purple

I'll put money on Wendy shooting those scores if she didn't have the british weather to contend with (even though she shot a cracker at bronte)

We have that kind of weather too, possibly worse wind wise in our area.

AVerage wind speed for us is around 24kph, England is around 14kph.

ANyway it doesn't matter if she can or not,, that's not the dispute. What it shows is that these girls are shooting scores most men would be pleased with and doing so without worrying about touching their nose.

[ornias]

My string is more like the second archer. My main point of reference is peep and string hand who sit on my jaw; I have the hand nearly horizontal, not so vertical as the two women you have put photos of . I feel at ease in this way; in any case at is seems that I can do by myself the module change I will buy the 25.5 or just in case.

thanks a lot again.

[Neo]

My string doen not toutch my face at all. Im using a just cuz release and a revolution release. When i started compound with a wrist release i could easily reference to my nose and chin but had a high anchor point. Now on a hand release i have a much lower anchor point. If i try to reference to my face i find myself twisting my head and forcing it down onto the string. I like to stand straight and tall and not hunch over. Maybe i dont rotate my head right to get face contact with the string.