Fletch Clearance Trophy Taker 1 Slo-Mo & piccie

[Watch_Man]

Originally Posted by Jerry Tee

From a purely technical point of view I would be interested to see what the flex pattern would be with a stiffer arrow, work for you by flexing the back of the arrow up as it crosses the arrow rest.

Well Jerry here is a piece of video of an 800 Nano Pro, 450 X10, 800 Triple, and 2 spines of Navi FMJ to compare. (Boredom Warning) Most of the arrows are doing much the same, the only interesting bit was the back shot of the X10 seems to show it sliding off the prongs and riding the right hand prong till it clears. This was probably caused by the arrow not being nocked accurately as the side shots seem to show the X10 travelling OK down the rest.

YouTube - Slow Motion Archery Trophy Taker 1 with Various Arrows

[Zanda]

Once again Watch Man, a good series of video shots, its interesting that you mentiion the x10 back end coming off the tt, which was around 3:19 also if you look around 2:15, again it clearly shows an arrow back end coming off the tt to the right hand side ! I'm one of the sad ones that watch's the whole clip lol.
what if anything that says about the tt, I certainly dont know, tho most arrows seem to move around to a lesser or greater degree. I guess you pays your pennies, and you makes your choices.

[Watch_Man]

Originally Posted by Zanda

Once again Watch Man, a good series of video shots, its interesting that you mentiion the x10 back end coming off the tt, which was around 3:19 also if you look around 2:15, again it clearly shows an arrow back end coming off the tt to the right hand side ! I'm one of the sad ones that watch's the whole clip lol.
what if anything that says about the tt, I certainly dont know, tho most arrows seem to move around to a lesser or greater degree. I guess you pays your pennies, and you makes your choices.

I took another look through the clips and the ones we haven't put on YouTube and you are correct. The common denominator is the nock. All the ones heading right have Easton pin nocks. This isn't a reflection on the nock more that the centre serving is actually set for a different pin nock and the Easton is quite a tight fit according to archery_mum who was doing the shooting. My own thoughts are that this is the connection and that the tight nock is causing the shift to the right off the prongs.

I am going to try and test this tonight when Wendy goes for her practice at the club field. I am going to change the pin nocks on the X10 and Navi FMJ and see if there is still right travel. Failing that it could be the centre shot would need to be adjusted for the carbon/alu arrows as the all carbon Nano's seem to stay on track OK.

I am open to suggestions though

[Hidden Hippo]

Are Nano's barelled or parallel? Could it be that the flex of the shaft is causing the arrow to contact on one side of the rest more than the other?

[Watch_Man]

Originally Posted by Hidden Hippo

Are Nano's barelled or parallel? Could it be that the flex of the shaft is causing the arrow to contact on one side of the rest more than the other?

Nano's are parallel as are the Navi FMJ's.

[bimble]

The pin nocks on my X10s are quite tight (small grove, my fault) but I have noticed that on my tt2 prongs that there is no rust on the left prong, unlike the right hand side (I shoot leftie). Perhaps this is something indicative of shooting tight nocks.

I am fairly certain that the corrosion was fairly even when I was shooting with the wide-groove nocks.

[Swifty]

My theory on why the LimbDriver outperforms even the TrophyTaker SS is that it essentially is both a drop away and a spring steel rest rolled into one. The launcher arm is flexible like a TT rest so it does not interfere with the oscillation of the arrow, and it drops away in time for the fletches to clear perfectly.

[Jerry Tee]

Thanks that was very interesting and not boring at all. I am going back for another look but it seems that the arrow that get off cleanest is the tripple.

[Watch_Man]

Originally Posted by Swifty

My theory on why the LimbDriver outperforms even the TrophyTaker SS is that it essentially is both a drop away and a spring steel rest rolled into one. The launcher arm is flexible like a TT rest so it does not interfere with the oscillation of the arrow, and it drops away in time for the fletches to clear perfectly.

Yes........

[Watch_Man]

As hard as we tried last night we could not get the X10 to fly correctly from the Trophy Taker. Please note that this is NOT a reflection on the X10 or Trophy Taker as the X10 is very stiff for the bow poundage.

Initially we thought it was because the nock was too tight but the following clip is shot with archery_mum's normal nocks. The video is split so you can see the best effort on the top and original setup on the bottom. Centre shot was adjusted but even at its best the too stiff arrow is still running down the right hand prong. I have included some frame grabs and a magnified section to illustrate this.

When setup as best as possible for the stiff arrow a correctly spined arrow's group spread very wide even at 30m. To bring the group back tight the stiff arrow flexed off the rest again.

This is ony added here for interest purposes as I know it has been argued that you can't go too stiff with a compound arrow. From the video and testing we did at the club last night I would prefer to stay near the correct spine.

Here is the new video
YouTube - Slow Motion Archery X10 on Trophy Taker 1 at 1200fps