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Old 25-04-06, 12:28 PM
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I've just fitted a Hoyt Accugrip on my 2002 Ultratec, to avoid the riser 'sitting' on the web of my hand. Originally it only had the side plates on and I found that they didn't promote a good 40/45 degree hand position for me.

However, I'm sure Hoyt developed that Y shape into the riser for a reason, but all the books I've read suggest that you 'only' want to have your thumb muscle in contact. So what does the forum say?
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Old 25-04-06, 12:33 PM
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I've just fitted a Hoyt Accugrip on my 2002 Ultratec, to avoid the riser 'sitting' on the web of my hand. Originally it only had the side plates on and I found that they didn't promote a good 40/45 degree hand position for me.

However, I'm sure Hoyt developed that Y shape into the riser for a reason, but all the books I've read suggest that you 'only' want to have your thumb muscle in contact. So what does the forum say?
I find my Ultratec does the same. I have considered a new grip too. What do you think of the New Accugrip? I prefer the 45 digree hand position but the standard Hoyt side plate grip is not good for this, not with my hands anyway.
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Old 25-04-06, 12:34 PM
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When I had a 2002 Ultratech I took the side plates off. They only get in the way and do nothing other than make the bow look a little neater.

My 2003 I shoot with the side plates on - but they are much small than the 2002 ones if my memory serves - and my 2005 I shoot with the palm-side plate off and the thumb-side plate on.

I personally find the width and angle of the bare Hoyt grip absolutely spot-on for me. I've tried with after-market grips (Loesch if I remember rightly) but still prefer the bare riser.

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Old 25-04-06, 12:46 PM
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I find my Ultratec does the same. I have considered a new grip too. What do you think of the New Accugrip? I prefer the 45 digree hand position but the standard Hoyt side plate grip is not good for this, not with my hands anyway.
Grip 'feels' better than the side plates, although i'm sure you shouldnt really be able to feel it at all. One gripe is that for a little more 'wood' they could have made the grip built so it doesnt have a sharp edge just where your web fits....and where the riser fits.

My problem is that the grip ( whichever one ) appears to slide with gravity and the bow becomes lodged on my thumb webbing. Which is just where the 5mm of extra wood, would have been more handy.

Have seriously considered seeing if someone can make a custom grip...my woodworking aint up to that.
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Old 25-04-06, 12:48 PM
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When I had a 2002 Ultratech I took the side plates off. They only get in the way and do nothing other than make the bow look a little neater.

My 2003 I shoot with the side plates on - but they are much small than the 2002 ones if my memory serves - and my 2005 I shoot with the palm-side plate off and the thumb-side plate on.

I personally find the width and angle of the bare Hoyt grip absolutely spot-on for me. I've tried with after-market grips (Loesch if I remember rightly) but still prefer the bare riser.

Adam
You may be able to help then....so does your bow, slide onto your webbing between thumb and forefinger? Or does the bow, just above the launcher, fit down onto your hand?
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Old 25-04-06, 12:58 PM
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Grip 'feels' better than the side plates, although i'm sure you shouldnt really be able to feel it at all. One gripe is that for a little more 'wood' they could have made the grip built so it doesnt have a sharp edge just where your web fits....and where the riser fits.

My problem is that the grip ( whichever one ) appears to slide with gravity and the bow becomes lodged on my thumb webbing. Which is just where the 5mm of extra wood, would have been more handy.

Have seriously considered seeing if someone can make a custom grip...my woodworking aint up to that.
I have a 2003 and the webing problem is a problem for me. I have considered making a grip. Woodwork is fine for me given the inclination.
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Old 25-04-06, 01:01 PM
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You may be able to help then....so does your bow, slide onto your webbing between thumb and forefinger? Or does the bow, just above the launcher, fit down onto your hand?
Viewed from behind the bow - the view I have when I'm about to shoot - the launcher arm appears to sit right down on top of my hand. The webbing of my hand is tucked right into the throat of the grip.

I'll try to take a pic of it - could be tricky - and see if I can figure out how to post it.

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Old 25-04-06, 01:05 PM
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Bow grips will always be a compromise. Manufacturers can only make a couple of variations,realistically, and I feel some of that is a token gesture; or an attempt to suit a few more hands.
With hands coming in so many varieties, no shape is perfect for every hand. Every bow I have owned, has needed a home made grip. In the making process, some features are easy to accommodate;such as the slope and the width of that slope. The tricky area is the shape of the section just below the arrow shelf. Look at your hand when the knuckles are at 45 degrees and you will see that the finger knuckle is higher than the thumb knuckle. When you look at the bow grips they are frequently made so the knuckles have to fit at almost the same level.
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Old 25-04-06, 01:18 PM
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seems we all got a similar problem them, riser sits into the cruck of the thumb/finger....if problem it is.

But for me, it just seems uncomfortable in comparision to a recurve Hoyt grip. I'd had thought that the higher draw weight before the valley would mean that you really didn't want an uncomfortable hand position....so assumed I must be doing something wrong.
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Old 25-04-06, 01:25 PM
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Looking at the pics of recurves and compounds, there seems to be more recurve grips built as one piece and more compounds using two side plates.
The two side plates usually leave small gaps and angles where wood meets metal. That can lead to a lot of discomfort. I fill those with******** so the two blend smoothly.
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