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Old 27-04-06, 06:40 PM
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Bowtech Equalizer

Ok I have only been shooting a few months, and I know I should not do it but I have already been looking at new equipment, For Next year Honest.

I was looking at the Bowtech and Spotted the Equalizer, Now I have read that your bow Axel length and Brace Height should be selected to suit your draw length and size, so I was wondering would a bow like this suit me more as I have a fairly short 26" draw length, i would be pushing the max draw of the bow and pulling the higher weight which is supposed to be a good thing.

What I am curious about is would this sort of bow be better for me than one of the bigger bows in the range, the light weight is appealing but i would not want to sacrifice weight for accuracy of the equipment, basically set up like for like and ignoring the archer (me) would they be equally as accurate?
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Old 27-04-06, 08:33 PM
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The compound bow likes to be shot at, or close to, max weight and max draw or so I have read. As for brace height being matched to the archer's size, I'm not sure. Brace height always makes me think of whether it will hit my arm(6" does) and accuracy.I was told that low brace heights can lead to more inaccuracy if the archer tends to torque the bow. Axle length is connected to weight usually,all things being equal, and the string angle at full draw is sharper on shorter bows. String angle can affect finger shooters(pinch) and the peep position is a little further from the eye on shorter bows for the same reason. On paper there seems to be nothing wrong with the Equalizer. All the specs seem to match what you are looking for. There are other considerations. How does it feel at full draw and how does it feel when you shoot it. Put it on your list.Have others too for comparison.
I hope this is some help.
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Old 27-04-06, 09:06 PM
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Old 29-04-06, 01:44 PM
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At the Australian National Championships just ended Bowtech Allegiances won:
Open Mens Compound Target: Stephen Clifton, NZ, 1391 and 1369
Open Womens Compound Target: Erika Anear, AUS, 1323 and 1338 (windy)

Not bad for a 34" axle to axle and 7" brace height.

The Equalizer is the same bow with a smaller cam, so it will work great!
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Old 29-04-06, 06:47 PM
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At the Australian National Championships just ended Bowtech Allegiances won:
Open Mens Compound Target: Stephen Clifton, NZ, 1391 and 1369
Open Womens Compound Target: Erika Anear, AUS, 1323 and 1338 (windy)

Not bad for a 34" axle to axle and 7" brace height.

The Equalizer is the same bow with a smaller cam, so it will work great!


Do you think it will be as forgiving as a longer bow (not necessarily the Alleigence) for a mere mortal archer such as myself, do you know someone who has shot one yet?

I have already asked the question on the Archery Forum, but given the same setup i.e. 26" Draw and 55# do you think it would be much quicker than the Allegiance? On the Urban Archery site the Allegiance is quoted around 280fps for my Draw but I don't know if this is at 70#.

The lighter weight would be nice they are only supposed to be 3.5lbs.

How did you do at the nationals?
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Old 29-04-06, 08:36 PM
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At 26" draw you can get away with a shorter brace height and take advantage of the speed, going with a 7.5" brace height or more is fine if you draw around 28" +

As for weight, you can always add weight and fine tune 'till your hearts content, but if you start with a heavy bow, there's no way to make it lighter. Get what feels comfortable, the Bowtechs are very smooth so the lighter weight shouldn't cause you any problems.
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I can't see why a longer bow would be more forgiving than a shorter one. That is a twin cam thing and is not an issue with these bows.
My wife's 06 Allegiance is 26" and is rated at 296fps, but she uses teh fast modules at 60lb.
The great thing about both these bows is that because they are such good performing bows, you can shoot 26" and 55lb and be getting better speed than some of these guys shooting Protecs and Ultratecs at 29" 60lb. That allows you to compete in the wind.


I had a mixed Nationals. 1331 on day one, but a bad second FITA, but won bronze in the Teams Matchplay. (only a team with Clint Freeman and John Dudley beat us)
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Thanks for that.

With respect to the draw and the cam on the Equaliser, I realise it is specific to the bow but which is is more like the Fast or Smooth binary cam on the allegiance?

I Think in reality I will be pushing nearer 60# by the time I get a new bow, I am just under 55# on my CyberTec and find the draw fairly easy, My bow arm shoulder still gets tired an I am not sure if that is related to draw weight or bow mass possibly a little of both. I have not gone heavier yet as my arrows are only spined up to 55#, Later in the year when I get some ACC's I will spline a little heavier and push the weight up some more.

Well done for the Nationals, 1300+ Fita I can but dream one day maybea.
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Old 30-04-06, 10:04 AM
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Cheers, I was annoyed because I felt it was a chance at 1350. Oh well, just gotta keep practising.

The draw on the Equalizer is a fast module, there is only that option. I think you will find it a far more accurate bow than the cybertec.
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My wife's 06 Allegiance is 26" and is rated at 296fps, but she uses teh fast modules at 60lb.
So Speeds are similar between the two and they run on similar cams, the biggest difference I guess is going to be the mass of the bows, and I would be using the Equaliser near max draw which is supposed to be better.

I suspect that there a lot of bows that will be better that my CyberTec I think it was developed more as a hunting bow i'm not sure how much it weighs but it feels very heavy compared to a couple of bigger Merlins we have in the Club (Max 3000) I think, it is doing pretty well at the moment and was a bit of a bargain so will do me for a while, it will have too as I will not be able to afford a NEW bow for a while yet, it will give me time to decide which bow I want and maybe try a few out.
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