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Old 11-07-06, 11:22 AM
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Navs or Triples?

I'm sure this question has been asked many times before, but here goes;

My ACC's (3L-18's) are coming to the end of their useful life, and its time to buy some more arrows and I've narrowed the choice to either Navigators or Triples, but I'm not sure which.

What do you consider the pros and cons for each?

My set up is a Martin Cougar III with Tru-Arc cams, arrow length 26", bow set at 50lb but will increase to 55-60lb.

I'm also unsure which spine to be looking at. Navs 540/480, Trip 500/400?

All help very much appreciated.
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Old 11-07-06, 11:32 AM
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Have a read of these threads h20vrrq:
http://www.archery-interchange.com/f...ead.php?t=1072
http://www.archery-interchange.com/f...ead.php?t=3128
http://www.archery-interchange.com/f...ead.php?t=3798
Should give you some info.
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Old 11-07-06, 11:35 AM
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I'm sure this question has been asked many times before, but here goes;

My ACC's (3L-18's) are coming to the end of their useful life, and its time to buy some more arrows and I've narrowed the choice to either Navigators or Triples, but I'm not sure which.

What do you consider the pros and cons for each?

My set up is a Martin Cougar III with Tru-Arc cams, arrow length 26", bow set at 50lb but will increase to 55-60lb.

I'm also unsure which spine to be looking at. Navs 540/480, Trip 500/400?

All help very much appreciated.

Well this as you say has had lots of coverage in the past.

Both arrows are very good, and from what I can gather perform in a very similar way. The Triple is a little cheaper. Regarding spine, the Triple is a litle tricky, but it seems the 300 triple is the same as a 430 spine navigator.

Considering you will increase to 55-60lb, If you go for Triples, buy 400's with 120 gn points. If you buy Navs go for 480's with 120 gn points, and fit Beiter nocks as G-nock will tend to crack the shaft at the back as they are a little small on the outside. Same with the Triple, go for Beiter Nocks as the Triple nocks tend the break.

My money would go on the Navs as I know they work, and they are easy to locate. etc. But either way, as I have said, both arrows are very good and ideal for compounds.
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Old 11-07-06, 11:47 AM
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If you go with the triples, you can use a pin nock which will protect the shaft even more!

The Easton Vector pin will fit the spine shafts you are looking at, but Easton have stopped production. Another option is to use pins made by a member of our club, very good quality at a decent price! Have a look at his EBay shop and see what you think. He is also doing Triple piles with shorter external bits and without the bulge!

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Considering you will increase to 55-60lb, If you go for Triples, buy 400's with 120 gn points.
Apologies for just butting in here, but I have the same issue and was wondering where to get 120gn points for the triples. I thought they only did 110gn point??
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Old 11-07-06, 12:09 PM
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Apologies for just butting in here, but I have the same issue and was wondering where to get 120gn points for the triples. I thought they only did 110gn point??
I know 120 gn points are available for Navigators, but not having used Triples I have no idea if 120 gn points are available. Juts go for the heavies point you can get, they really helps in the wind.

One more reason why I would buy Navigators
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Old 11-07-06, 12:43 PM
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Triples standard points are 110 gr break-offs. If you go for the Triples I also higly reccomend pin nocks: they saved me 6 arrows up to now..
According to TAP (http://www.thearcheryprogram.com/ ):At 55 lbs, draw and arrow length 26", pin nocks and a 110 gr point, 500's are the best match. Slightly stiff and a FOC of 12.11%

Same program, same setup: 480 Navigators are stiffer than the Triples (assuming Easton has 110 gr points for them), slightly heavier (15 gr) and a FOC of 11%. Navigator 540 with 100 gr points are in the center of the green, but then the FOC goes down to 10.5%

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I've shot both and would suggest the 500 triples too. It's better to have the shaft a little stiff. The points are 110 grains.

In fact I have a load of Navs - 540 and 430 spine for sale if you are interested. You can have them all for less than a new set of Navs. Just PM me for more info.
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Old 11-07-06, 01:02 PM
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I've shot both and would suggest the 500 triples too. It's better to have the shaft a little stiff. The points are 110 grains.

In fact I have a load of Navs - 540 and 430 spine for sale if you are interested. You can have them all for less than a new set of Navs. Just PM me for more info.
Now there is an offer...bite hand off quick..

Shame the Triple point is not available in 120 form?
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Old 11-07-06, 10:18 PM
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Thanks for all of the information guys, it looks very much like either arrow will be fine although I think I'm leaning towards the triples with 110gr points and pin nocks. The bow will be set at a minimum of 55lb but probably higher so the question now is which spine is right, 500's or 400's?

Where is the best place to buy from as I mIght be buying a set sooner than I planned, just smashed one of my few remaining ACC's. Only 7 left now
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