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Old 24-07-06, 04:02 PM
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Build quality and ******h, erm, dont they paint their risers with something akin to nail varnish? The others polish and anodize.
Not quite.
The Bowtechs are finished with a film dip, same as Mathews camo bows. The finish on the Bowtechs in black or camo are first class. I didn't like their chrome colours this year, but their 2005's were anodized. So are the diamond targets.
Limb finish the Bowtechs kill Mathews. The Mathews limb finish is the worst in the industry in my opinion. My Ovation looked terrible after 1 month and my other Mathews I had to treat with extreme care.
As for machine quality there is no difference between the Bowtechs and Mathews. They are both excellent.

I would happily shoot both brands.

Popularity is based on cam design. That's why Hoyt, Mathews and Bowtech rule.
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Old 24-07-06, 04:45 PM
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Popularity is based on cam design. That's why Hoyt, Mathews and Bowtech rule.
Not quite so, as Darton designed and hold the patents on the Binary cam, which is why Bowtech pay them a licence fee.

When I first started shooting compounds, Mathews and Bowtech did not exist and Hoyt or Bear where the big players in the UK.

I love all this technology....until it goes wrong
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Old 25-07-06, 12:44 AM
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Darton never produced the Binary cam, but they own the patent.
Just owning the patent won't sell bows.
Bowtech produced the Binary and then marketed it correctly and that created the popularity.
Same with the Cam 1/2 system. Darton was actually using this Cam, but untill Hoyt produced a version and marketed it correctly it was not popular.
Single cams are again the same. Mathews and single cam go together but they did not invent the technology. Bear own the patent but we don't run out and buy Bear over Mathews.
All three have made a major name for themselves in recent times by producing and marketing refined and excellent cams.

It's one thing to own the patent, but it's another to actually produce a high quality working cam design. Patents don't control the draw charactoristics and nock travel properties of a cam so not all Binary cams, Single cams or Cam 1/2's are the same.
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I agree with all you have said. It is one thing to produce clever solutions to problems, it is another to make and market them, that is why R&D people are not sales people.

Single cam, cam and a half, binary, all MARKETED, all SOLD into the market place, that is what makes companies popular. They have to have a good product too, comparable at the very least with others out there.

Get any decent product, put a good marketing and sponsorship campaign behind it and it will sell. Gain and maintain a good reputation along the way, and a loyal following and your on your made. Mind you, the hard work is then staying at the top.
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