Punt?

[kato]

had a shoot of the Allegiance as my first compound experience...[I know,I know, bit like Keira as your first date] ...fascinating...reminds me of an air rifle, it's so smooth. Am beginning to see why you guys like this discipline.

Thing is, I hate the grip...

Had my heart set on Apex 7 but thought I should investigate bows with easily adjustable draw lengths etc...[this being my first Compound and all]

Like the HOyt grips but not the bow...

Question: should I just take a punt on the Apex7 and trust that I'll be able to get the draw length right first time? What are the odds?


Wise words would be appreciated

[flamingbladerider]

Dont. These bows have draw length specific cams . You need to be measured to get the exact draw length. Bowsports are Mathews main dealers, if you can, try before you buy. It will save money in the long run.

[kato]

Originally Posted by flamingbladerider

Dont. These bows have draw length specific cams . You need to be measured to get the exact draw length. Bowsports are Mathews main dealers, if you can, try before you buy. It will save money in the long run.

Thanks

I will get measured...my question is whether, as one new to compounds, it is likely that my measured draw length will be correct first time out or whether it will change and necessitate several adjustments to get it right and therefore making an adjustable bow mandatory

[CPlater1]

I would suggest going for a cheaper compound that is adjustable, so that as you find a style that is comfortable, you can find a draw length that suits the style you chose, rather than trying to change your style to suit the bow. As always, it is advisable to go into a shop and let them know that you are a new compound archer, then they should help you get started. An adjustable bow isnt mandatory if you have plenty of money, but as i said, it is advisable to shoot one, as then you will feel much better and have higher scores (hopefully).

Chris

[doubletop]

my lad has a merlin quest 35 and the cams on that are adjustable in half inch increments so the bow could be adjusted as he grew that was the reason we went with it but definitly get measured and take all the advice that is given then ask some more questions i wish i had known about this site when i was buying for the first time
having said that i am lucky that the merlin shop is just down the road so i had plenty of good advice

[Jerry Tee]

the type of release aid you use may vary your draw lenght. Get an adjustable bow.

[geoffretired]

Get a bow with easily adjustable draw length.With compounds, there is the release aid and d-loop(if used) to add to the equation. You need to discover your reference points with the release aid in use. When using the compound, you can sometimes discover better alignment and better bow shoulder positioning.With the adjustable bow, you can fit the bow to yourself as these discoveries are made. Measuring your draw, first, can give a guide but it is very unlikely to be spot on first time. Which bow you buy in order to discover these dimensions is really down to archer preferences. Bear in mind that the grip on a bow can normally be altered to suit the archer.

[kato]

Originally Posted by geoffretired

Get a bow with easily adjustable draw length.With compounds, there is the release aid and d-loop(if used) to add to the equation. You need to discover your reference points with the release aid in use. When using the compound, you can sometimes discover better alignment and better bow shoulder positioning.With the adjustable bow, you can fit the bow to yourself as these discoveries are made. Measuring your draw, first, can give a guide but it is very unlikely to be spot on first time. Which bow you buy in order to discover these dimensions is really down to archer preferences. Bear in mind that the grip on a bow can normally be altered to suit the archer.

yeah...just saw on the website that Loesch do a grip for Bowtechs

I'm thinking I should buy a release aid and take it along when I get measured up...thing is, I'm new to them too

Anyone tried the Loesch back tension release yet?[seems like it's the only one you don't have to wiggle] Or is trigger release the only way to go?

[geoffretired]

Kato, I have been shooting the Loesch for the last month or two. It works very well. I bought a Carter Ember too, and it was just as good but in a different way. With the Loesch I was overdrawing my body by about half inch compared to the Carter so I needed to adjust the draw length of the bow when I changed from one to the other.
To properly set up the drawlength of a compound, you need to have a release aid in your hand(unless you want to shoot off the fingers).My journal has a page on the two releases and how I got on with them. There are others, obviously, but so many that trying them all is not worth the effort. If you get the chance, draw some compounds before you go to an archery shop. That will give you a rough idea of the feel and the range of draw length that would fit you.
A point worth making here is that when you attach the release aid to the string, notice how far from the bow string your fingers are when you hold the release aid.The ember, for example, puts the string almost at the knuckles. That means your recurve draw length will be fairly close to your compound one. Some wrist strap models can put the string over one inch away from the knuckles so the bow has to be shortened by roughly that amount. This can cause difficulties if the archer expects to shoot with the same bow draw length.

[kato]

Originally Posted by geoffretired

Kato, I have been shooting the Loesch for the last month or two. It works very well. I bought a Carter Ember too, and it was just as good but in a different way. With the Loesch I was overdrawing my body by about half inch compared to the Carter so I needed to adjust the draw length of the bow when I changed from one to the other.
To properly set up the drawlength of a compound, you need to have a release aid in your hand(unless you want to shoot off the fingers).My journal has a page on the two releases and how I got on with them. There are others, obviously, but so many that trying them all is not worth the effort. If you get the chance, draw some compounds before you go to an archery shop. That will give you a rough idea of the feel and the range of draw length that would fit you.
A point worth making here is that when you attach the release aid to the string, notice how far from the bow string your fingers are when you hold the release aid.The ember, for example, puts the string almost at the knuckles. That means your recurve draw length will be fairly close to your compound one. Some wrist strap models can put the string over one inch away from the knuckles so the bow has to be shortened by roughly that amount. This can cause difficulties if the archer expects to shoot with the same bow draw length.

this is helpful...thanks

I am keen to keep all my reference points as close as possible between the disciplines for obvious reasons....

Do you have a view on the relative merits of back tension v trigger release?
I read somewhere that you activate triggers in much the same way i.e. rest the thumb in the trigger and then expand...?

btw the new Carter Evolution sounds like it might be a bit special doesn't it?..the design logic and erconomics of the thing make complete sense even to me...and the buid quality looks way up there as well