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Old 28-07-06, 12:34 AM

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which long rod ??

Hi guys n gals, simple question what sort of long rod / stabaliser do you use on your beloved compound, its time for me to get a new one and I want to get a good un, so your opinion's please folks
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Old 28-07-06, 09:54 AM
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Indoors you can'r beat Beiter rods. Have a play with different lengths if you can, and pick what feels best.

Outdoors I find that the Beiter rods catch too much wind, so I use solid carbon rods (with a 3 or 4 inch extender and end weights) instead - Arten or Cartel, both are good.

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Old 28-07-06, 10:58 AM

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[quote=Adam]Indoors you can'r beat Beiter rods. Have a play with different lengths if you can, and pick what feels best.

Outdoors I find that the Beiter rods catch too much wind, so I use solid carbon rods (with a 3 or 4 inch extender and end weights) instead - Arten or Cartel, both are good.

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Old 28-07-06, 12:51 PM

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Indoors you can'r beat Beiter rods. Have a play with different lengths if you can, and pick what feels best.

Outdoors I find that the Beiter rods catch too much wind, so I use solid carbon rods (with a 3 or 4 inch extender and end weights) instead - Arten or Cartel, both are good.

Adam
Hi Zander,

Can't fault this advice. I used a Beiter rod outdoor and indoors too. I did experiment with a thinner carbon rod outside too but found the steadiness of the shot offered by a long 41" Beiter rod with 1 end weight better. The wind probably is an issue, but Adam is much better than me anyway and can probable feel the difference.

Long rods are very user specific, what works/feels good to one may not be the case to another. Experiment and borrow as many as you can to get a feel for them. Almost any rod will work well, I find it's how the weight is distributed at the end makes all the difference.
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Old 28-07-06, 02:17 PM
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I've just invested in a 'Better One' longrod - very light in comparison to the Beiter which I'm in favour of. Having said that I may well end up putting an end weight on it - still experimenting.

Check them out at OK Archery - http://www.ok-archery.de/stabidetails.htm

I got mine from Clickers - they sent one on approval. Same price as a Beiter.
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Old 28-07-06, 02:43 PM
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The Doinker D2 long rods are worth a look too. They are pricey, but the isolation chamber at the base does a good job of stopping vibration feeding back from the long rod into the riser, you also get the weights with it.

The Better One light longrod looks interesting though
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The Better One light longrod looks interesting though
I'm a bit wary of over-light long rods. To stop the rod kicking-up on release you end up adding weigh to the far end. This creates a pendulum effect and means it takes longer for the bow to settle into a steady aim. What you really want is evenly distibuted weight, over sufficient length to properly stabilize the bow. If you can get this with a thin rod (to reduce air resistance), so much the better.

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Old 28-07-06, 04:06 PM
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I'm a bit wary of over-light long rods. To stop the rod kicking-up on release you end up adding weigh to the far end. This creates a pendulum effect and means it takes longer for the bow to settle into a steady aim. What you really want is evenly distibuted weight, over sufficient length to properly stabilize the bow. If you can get this with a thin rod (to reduce air resistance), so much the better.

Adam
True, I've always felt the multi rod style stabilisers were too prone to flexing for my liking, so making it lighter may increase this, although they seem to have spaced the rods further apart to compensate. I guess it will depend on what sort of weighting system they provide as to how much control you have over the mass weight, they just look like little spacers on the website.
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Old 28-07-06, 04:13 PM

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My thanks to all for their replies and ideas, plenty to think about.
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Old 28-07-06, 06:02 PM

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zanda,

almost any long rod would work well.

I think it all depends on your particular set-up, shooting style, shooting conditions and preferences. Having said that, I think that a lot of archery set-up discussions sometimes tend to be academic. Not that I'm knocking any opinions shared, and many good recommendations and observations have been made here, but remember that as with anything in life, it's all a matter of identifying and balancing all the variables involved.

I'm not sure if you've been through these articles before, but have a look at the section where stabalisation is discussed.

http://www.tenzone.u-net.com/Equipment/index.htm
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