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View Poll Results: Do You Shoot With Scope Image In or Out of Focus
In Focus. 25 48.08%
Out Of Focus. 17 32.69%
Don't Know. 4 7.69%
Don't Care. 3 5.77%
I shoot Limited - I do Not use a Peep/Scope. 3 5.77%
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Old 29-12-06, 11:06 AM
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Scope Image In or out of Focus

After Posting another thread about scopes I got to wondering what affected scope Focus and there are several things I can think of distance to target, Distance from Peep to Lens. Peep Hole Diameter Lens Magnification and and possibly Lens Diameter, and I think possible weather you are shooting with 1 eyes or 2. Any Comments on this if you like to shoot in focus what do you change to get it that way.

Most Of the time the Target I am shooting at is out of focus It does not bother me and my scores are OK for someone who is basically a newbie/novice still.

How Do you shoot In/Out of focus.
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Old 29-12-06, 12:26 PM
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Mine is out of focus.

I have to use a hard contact lens to shoot with (in fact do anything, no glasses won't help, only a new cornea will) which floats around. Problem with that was that while 99% of the time my shots were out of focus every now and then they were in perfect focus, which ruined my shot routine.
So I increased my peep sight size and that fixed that. Now nothing is in focus. My scores have also improved. Recently shot a 592 FITA indoor and yet I can not see the outter 10 ring line, just the yellow and red colours. Just aim at the middle of the blurry yellow bit.
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Old 29-12-06, 12:41 PM
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Marcus What sort of Scope decals/pins do you use? Ring, Dot etc?
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Old 29-12-06, 12:52 PM
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I shoot with my scope in focus. I have a beiter 39mm 0.75 dioptres with fluoro pin, and a specialty ball peep with clarifier lens on the second smallest hole. This combo gives me good light in, and keeps it clear, because I personally dont like shooting with it out of focus. I shoot with both eyes open, and shot like that to get J Bowman. Outdoors I use the smallest hole in my peep, and put reducing rings on my scope, but apart from that, everything stays the same.
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Old 29-12-06, 02:40 PM
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Marcus What sort of Scope decals/pins do you use? Ring, Dot etc?
I use a tiny orange Gunstar dot. I did have a small fibre in it but broke it so took it out.
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Old 29-12-06, 06:26 PM
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Thanks paul I have voted in the relevant box.
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Old 29-12-06, 06:43 PM
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I'm with Marcus

I wear glasses to shoot and the target is never sharp, I have the sight extension adjusted to reach 100 yds and slightly out of focus. I just aim at the colours (somtimes the gold).

I did get the focus perfect once and found that I got all picky about aiming which was just distracting.
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Old 29-12-06, 06:59 PM
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Thanks paul I have voted in the relevant box.

That one was Just for you Jerry

I would have a go at limited but I cant comfortably finger drew, my hand feels so unnatural that way round and elbow is all over the place, I really did not like the feeling when I did my recurve lessons, but release felt just right really natural.
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Old 31-12-06, 02:26 PM
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I shoot with the target out of focus. I wear glasses or specialist shooting glasses, sometimes contact lenses, but recently because I've been shooting with a short axle bow and a long draw length, the peep is some distance from my eye - therefore I've had to use a large peep diameter, which defocusses the image. I use the standard Beiter Scope with a .75 lens.

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When shooting Compund I used the Large bieter scope with Ziess lens with pin insert with 1.0 magnification. To get it to focus properly I had to use the smallest peep which was not practical. I could easily distinguish between colours but could not see tha black lines. this did not affect my shooting if anything made it better as I was not so intent on aimin I just let it happen naturally.
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