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Old 10-01-07, 04:58 PM
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What compound would you recommend me to buy?

I have been shooting recurve for over 20yrs, and have been thinking about purchasing a compound to shot as well as my recurve I would be aiming to shoot this quite confidentally by the end of this year and achieving BM standard

The thing is I would be a complete newbie to compound archery at the moment it seems like a mine field to me, I have bought core archery to help but it hasn't helped can someone please explain the differences in things such as half cam, solo cams, cams and half, I really don't know, what would you recommend to buy and why.

Some stats that might help

draw length is 27 and half inches, and as a recurve archer have 44lbs on the fingers.

Can anyone help please
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Old 10-01-07, 05:05 PM
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I have been shooting recurve for over 20yrs, and have been thinking about purchasing a compound to shot as well as my recurve I would be aiming to shoot this quite confidentally by the end of this year and achieving BM standard

The thing is I would be a complete newbie to compound archery at the moment it seems like a mine field to me, I have bought core archery to help but it hasn't helped can someone please explain the differences in things such as half cam, solo cams, cams and half, I really don't know, what would you recommend to buy and why.

Some stats that might help

draw length is 27 and half inches, and as a recurve archer have 44lbs on the fingers.

Can anyone help please
Its very individual. I like Bowtech my wife Hoyt. The best bit of advice is to go along to a dealer who knows what they are doing and can let you try a couple of bows. You want a dealer who will then setup the bow correctly (very important) and then support you afterwards.

My wife, my son and myself use Custom Built. We have bought 2 compounds and 2 recurve in the past year from them. I know there are other good dealers around, find a local one that is recommended by other club members or friends.

Dont buy off ebay - I know several club members who did and most have ended up at a shop for help.

My personal choice is a Bowtech Allegiance.
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Old 10-01-07, 05:15 PM
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You say you want to achieve BM, are you achieving this with your recurve at present?

Can't beat a BowTech IMHO, and thats coming from a die hard recurver!

Definectly find a good local store.
Definectly try everything possible before you buy.
Definectly don't buy from e-bay. Its a false economy and you'll spend far more than if you'd bought it new unless your lucky.

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Old 10-01-07, 05:27 PM
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On my classification I just missed MB last year, and have been MB in the past the closest archery dealer to me is a 2 and half hours drive so not that possible to get there that easy.

I personally like to do my background research on a topic before a purchase anything. And the best people to ask are those who use the equipment or shoot that type of bow.

The club I shot for is mainly a recurve club, and the members we have that shoot compound are knowledgeable, but can't explain, they answer any questions with well that's what you need, no explanation

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Im not as dumb as I may be coming across on this thread, recurve archery in fine, but I have no knowledge / limited knowledge on shooting a compound bow, but I could put on d loop or even change the draw length no problem.
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Old 10-01-07, 05:28 PM
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I would be aiming to shoot this quite confidentally by the end of this year and achieving BM standard
And he'll do it too,
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Old 10-01-07, 05:31 PM
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We got our compound from a shop too, it was a 2nd hand xtec but we spend best part of a day there being taught the necessaries
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Old 10-01-07, 05:33 PM
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a shop is a 2 hr drive from us but we found it worth the effort. So whover your local dealer is it may be worth the drive.

All the new season bows are coming into dealers now, perhaps its not a good time to be asking as not many have experience on bows such as the new Guardian. From US reviews this seems to be flavour of the month, with no vibration, easy to shoot and an all round good egg
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Old 10-01-07, 05:34 PM
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As ur effectivly a novice, something nice and forgiving and ajustable is the way to go is the way to go, perhaps a Hoyt protec (second hand), with the Cam and a half system you will be able to ajust your drawlength quite a lot, best to get a coach to help you on that bit. when buying look for somthing with a range with half an inch longer than ur recurve in teh middel. If you have money to spend on a new bow: Hoyt proelete is a fine bow, just a bit stiffer than the protec.

I shoot 39lbs on my recureve, and I try and shoot as close to the 60lbs rule will allow on my compound, sujest setting one up nice an safe at 58.5lbs.
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Old 10-01-07, 06:08 PM
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You will get so many different opinions with a request like this. I would recommend you do some research and reading first. Go to Merlin's web site and under "Tec" you will find articles written to assist with first time bow selection. Also Hunterfriend.com has a very large section on bow selection and terminology. As others have said stay away from ebay untill you have more knowledge. For what it's worth I would go with either a Merlin or Hoyt bow. Good luck
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Old 10-01-07, 06:08 PM
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With your draw length you can take advantage of some of the shorter axle length bows out there and not worry too much about the shorter brace heights. There are lots of good bows on the market and you've picked the right time to go looking with manufacturers new bows out, and consequently plenty of second hand and display models on ebay.

You seem to have plenty of shooting experience with recurve, so I see no reason to start off on a novice bow, especially if you intend to compete later with it. At this stage don't worry about all the different cam types as modern string materials means the different styles are practically as reliable, tuneable and fast as each other.

Most important thing is to get yourself to a bow shop and have them find out your exact draw length for a compound, they should measure you with the trigger release you intend to use. Then try out some bows to find what fits you best (string angle) which one you feel most confident drawing back (cam type, smooth, aggressive etc) and which one holds best for you at full draw (mass weight, centre of balance, handle design etc)

I'd recommend trying the Merlin X range of bows, probably with the Alpha cams as they are a very easy to set up and smooth to draw.
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