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Old 23-01-07, 05:05 PM
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I know what my DL is on a Bowtech, but I wouldn't dream of buying (say) a Hoyt without trying it
A very good point. I shoot 28.5" AMO on my Hoyt UltraElite, but 28" on my Matthews Conquest and yet it feels the same. 28.5" on the Mathews crucifies me. And they really are 28" and 28.5", its just that the geometry of the two bows, and particularly their hand grips are very different.

I agree with Kae and the rest - the only way to be sure is to go to a decent shop. I didn't, took a chance, and it cost me the price of a new Mathews cam.
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Old 23-01-07, 05:45 PM
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The AMO standard is the only recognised way of measuring draw length. That is from the throat of the nock at full draw to the throat of the grip, then add 1.75".
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Old 23-01-07, 08:49 PM
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Hallelugha, at last it's starting to get through!!!
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Old 24-01-07, 10:11 AM
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Hallelugha, at last it's starting to get through!!!
I'm puzzled. The thread started with the definition of the AMO draw length which was given quite correctly. It then went on to a perfectly reasonable discussion of the relationship between AMO draw length and personal requirements - basically, anyone who assumes that they will shoot the same AMO no matter what the geometry of the bow could be in for an expensive surprise.

The throat of the handle of, say any 28.5" AMO bow (correctly adjusted) will be the same distance from the nocking point at full draw, but for most people the angle and height of the handgrip play a big part in determining the archer's exact arm position and extension and therefore the draw length they, personally need on that bow.

So what is getting through at last?
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Old 24-01-07, 07:34 PM
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I'm puzzled. The thread started with the definition of the AMO draw length which was given quite correctly. It then went on to a perfectly reasonable discussion of the relationship between AMO draw length and personal requirements - basically, anyone who assumes that they will shoot the same AMO no matter what the geometry of the bow could be in for an expensive surprise.

So what is getting through at last?
I think this is what bald eagle is talking about

I agree with Kae and the rest - the only way to be sure is to go to a decent shop. I didn't, took a chance, and it cost me the price of a new Mathews cam.
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Old 24-01-07, 08:56 PM
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Thanks Moose, I see so many disappointed folk who have bought their ideal bow on ebay or mail order only to find it aint no good for them. What I meant when I said "it's finally getting through" was the fact that archers are realising it is prudent and cheaper in the long run, to go to a dealer to be measured for their bow, talk about their needs and be advised on any aspects they do not understand and also to try before you buy!
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Old 24-01-07, 09:20 PM
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As usual.....

We have lots of different answers as is usual in the field of achery.. Sorry I didn't look it up in the GNAS manual of guidance. Is it in there?
I did find this though http://www.accuratearchery.net/arrow_selection.htm
In Accurate archery's shop in Florida.- quite useful, similar to your answer Magic Squares and Greydog too. Thanks for that. It seems I need a 30 inch bow. But, I may be able to cut about 3/4 inch off my arrows before they fall off the rest! So.. what is the recognised overhang???????and.. do I get to use a less stiff arrow?
But as you all suggest- try before you buy.. hey ho, a long drive ahead

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Old 24-01-07, 10:19 PM
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We have lots of different answers as is usual in the field of achery.. Sorry I didn't look it up in the GNAS manual of guidance. Is it in there?
I did find this though http://www.accuratearchery.net/arrow_selection.htm
In Accurate archery's shop in Florida.- quite useful, similar to your answer Magic Squares and Greydog too. Thanks for that. It seems I need a 30 inch bow. But, I may be able to cut about 3/4 inch off my arrows before they fall off the rest! So.. what is the recognised overhang???????and.. do I get to use a less stiff arrow?
But as you all suggest- try before you buy.. hey ho, a long drive ahead
That`s a very wise decision you`ve made. It may be a long drive but you wont regret it.
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Old 24-01-07, 11:38 PM
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Sorry Bald Eagle - thought you might have meant the other thing.
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