Bow draw specifications?

[Davros]

When ordering a compound bow, how is the draw length measured?
At full draw,from the nock to the button position: from the nock to the back of the bow, or something other than that?

[Kae]

If you don't know how the draw is measured, then you should be getting yourself down to a good bowshop to be measured and setup with a bow as you don't know enough about them to be ordering one yourself.

IF your only asking out of curiosity, then the drawlength is from the nock groove to where the arrow sits on the launcher.

Kae.

[magic Squares]

Hi Davros
Below is the hoyt answer to your question, but any dealer would also find the length from string groove to throat of the handle ( which is normally in line with the arrowrest hole)
What is "ATA Standard" draw length?
A method of measurement has been established to provide an industry standard of draw length and eliminate the variances in the original method caused by different thicknesses of bow risers. The ATA Standard Draw Length is arrived at by measuring the "Draw Length to Pivot Point" which is the distance from the string's nock point to the pivot point of the grip, and adding 1 and 3/4 inches. The 1 and 3/4 inches represents the average distance from the far side of the bow to the bow grips pivot point. Manufactures use this ATA Standard Draw Length when they designate the draw length of a bow.

[Davros]

Thanks for your very concise definition magic Squares.
I have only been shooting Compound for a year with a second hand bow and arrows so I was not familiar. The bow I purchased had no manual so I didn't know my starting point. I needed to extend my D loop to about 3/4" I also restrung the bow at its longest draw length and purchase an extended rest to suit the ACC arrows I had purchased (Very Cheap) Now I am ready to buy new and being a long way from the shop I wish to purchase from I need to mail order- hence my question. My draw from nock to rest is 28 3/4 and to the front of the bow a further 1 1/4 ". I would like to pull a further 1/4" . That would make the distance form nock to back of bow 30 1/4". So I guess that a bow draw length of 29 1/2 - 30" would be OK?

[Kae]

I know what your saying, but getting this wrong could be the difference between you shooting well and improving, and leaving archery in the next month!

Pretty please with knobs on (and a cherry on top if you insist) make the effort to go to a decent archery shop to get properly measured and have the bow setup for you.

Kae.

[greydog]

Originally Posted by magic Squares

Hi Davros
Below is the hoyt answer to your question, but any dealer would also find the length from string groove to throat of the handle ( which is normally in line with the arrowrest hole)
What is "ATA Standard" draw length?
A method of measurement has been established to provide an industry standard of draw length and eliminate the variances in the original method caused by different thicknesses of bow risers. The ATA Standard Draw Length is arrived at by measuring the "Draw Length to Pivot Point" which is the distance from the string's nock point to the pivot point of the grip, and adding 1 and 3/4 inches. The 1 and 3/4 inches represents the average distance from the far side of the bow to the bow grips pivot point. Manufactures use this ATA Standard Draw Length when they designate the draw length of a bow.

This is correct, it is not measured to the berger hole, that's how you get your true draw for a recurve, but even draw length specific cams will have some adjustment, so it's not the end of the world if you are slightly out Getting measured at the bow shop, or by a coach at your club will help.

[tel]

I don't know much about compound - or anything else for that matter - but I would have been sure that this problem wasn't specific to GWAS....

[ThePinkOne]

Originally Posted by greydog

This is correct, it is not measured to the berger hole, that's how you get your true draw for a recurve, but even draw length specific cams will have some adjustment, so it's not the end of the world if you are slightly out Getting measured at the bow shop, or by a coach at your club will help.

Best to go to the shop and try different bows at the length. I know when my DL is off by a couple of mm these days... (eg new string stretched, new d-loop stretched in and bedded down etc. etc).

I know what my DL is on a Bowtech, but I wouldn't dream of buying (say) a Hoyt without trying it, and I have an established compound DL too. Things like if you are using a loop and the aftermarket grip you plan to put on make a difference too, as can a change of release aid. Best thing really is try before you buy.

P.

[moley101]

I bought a compund last weekend, and to measure my drawlength, they made me stand with my bow arm up against the wall, with my knucles flat on it and my draw arm up on my face etc against a wall and got a tape measure and measured something, then they got the bow and fiddled with something, and then i shot it then they fiddled again and then it was perfect
Not very helpful I know, but I agree with Kae, go and do it at a shop, they'll do it for you and you can ask a profesionals opinion so you know how to do it yourself the next time.

[Jerry Tee]

What ever you do , DO NOT buy a compound bow that is draw lenght specific. by this I means that you have to change the cams to change to draw lenght. Ok I shoot an Oneida and you won't be getting one of those over here but they are one of the bows that fit modules into the cam to change draw lenght and let off. Best thing would be to get in touch with Ben at Merlin to find out about those bows.If your are unsure about any other types of bow then post a question, some one will answer.