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Old 28-01-07, 07:18 PM
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Limited Compound

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My 9yo son has gone back to archery this year and decided to try for his Archery For Schools badges.

Do limited compound shooters only have the same small x10 ring as normal compound (indoors) or are they scored the same as release shooters?

He has no scope only a beiter pin ring and shoots off his fingers. Will he need to score 100% or the required score as normal compounders or is he classed the same as a recurve archer.

He hopes to move to a mechanical release later this year once he can find one that fits his hand better.

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Old 28-01-07, 08:00 PM
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I expect Jerry Tee will be along to answer that shortly.
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Old 28-01-07, 10:55 PM
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He has to shoot the small X ring to score a ten. This I find a little hard myself. I think this is wrong, but I don't think it is right that a limited compound archer should use the large ten either.Until some one gets their brain in gear and draws a ten ring between the X and the present ten ring for limited compound archers to use, the indoor scoring system is not fair to limited compound archers. For now there is no alternative but to use the present scoring system for the time being, but keep in mind what the recurver archers are shooting and remind them of what they would be scoring if they shot by the same rules.
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Old 29-01-07, 11:12 AM
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Thanks Jerry

I guess for his pound bow (#20) with a big let off its fair as he is holding almost nothing on his fingers. I think it is tougher on seniors that could be holding upto 30# on your fingers as its almost the same as a recurve shooter.

I would think by mid summer he may ask to try a release aid and scope again but he struggled with both the wrist (fidly to latch on) and too big hand releases so he went back to his 3 finger shooting glove.

I saw these http://www.winnarchery.com/ and they look like it could be a mid way starting point but I am not sure how small "small" is, but at 60USD its not a large amount of money to have a punt on.

Actually reading on they do do a x-small for kids.
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Old 29-01-07, 11:35 AM
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Yeah, the Limited Compound is I guess equivalant to the BareBow recurve- neither have separate handicap/classification systems and it is argued that they are both disadvantaged.

That aside, BB and Limited only compete in tournaments against BB and Limited. I'm not sure there would be enough Limited compounds in the UK to create a handicap/classification scheme, as I gather it works partly on statistical analysis of scores to se the levels and you'd need enough data to be representative if it were to be fair.

I think the Limited compound can use a peep and level, so the main difference is the fingers vs release aid. WRT to scopes, they can be a mixed blessing- I know an Unlimited compound archer who does not use a scope indoors or out (he had a clear insert with no magnification) and shoots to a high standard.

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Old 29-01-07, 12:11 PM
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I always though Limited were not allowed to use scopes at all but its such a grey area to me. We do have a really good limited archer at our club (Ian Trout) I'll ask his advice when I next catch up with him.
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I always though Limited were not allowed to use scopes at all but its such a grey area to me. We do have a really good limited archer at our club (Ian Trout) I'll ask his advice when I next catch up with him.
You can use a LEVEL but not a scope..... scope meaning it magnifies.

Rule 208 (c) says: "The bowsight must not incorporate magnifying lenses or prisms (i.e. a scope). A level and peepsight are allowed."

So you can have a sight with a none-magnifyign lens in- as that is not a "scope" even if it looks the same construction. The key issue is the "magnifying lenses or prisms."

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