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Old 29-03-07, 11:30 AM
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Bow: 09 Bowtech Admiral
String & Cables: Stock.
Sight: Shibuya Carbon
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Sight bar is an easy move, mine is in 2/3 of the way in and lives there now.
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Old 29-03-07, 04:53 PM
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Riser: Early Hoyt GM
Limbs: Stylist CarbonFoam 38#
Sight: Arten Olympic
Stabilisers: Beiter 35T2, with Ca
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Not so good - pulled the sight bar in all the way and still not enough clearance. I think the problem lies with my setup. The drop away arrow rest could do with coming down a bit at full draw, that or buy a smaller scope housing.
Don't give up straight away. When you move the sight inwards, you also need to move it up until it is sufficiently clear of the fletchings. As long as they are touching they will get thrown off and you won't be able to find a sight mark anyway. If they are touching it couldbe slowing them, or knocking them down totally confusing the issue.
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Old 29-03-07, 05:18 PM
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moving the peep up to shoot outdoors is counter intuitive only a last ditch option or if u are anchoring half way up your face rather than on your jaw line.
best option get some lighter arrows as you do not have a long enough face (distance from peep to arrow is the crucial factor) to shoot this weight arrows.
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Since you've moved the sight bar all the way in, I would suggest switching to 100 grn points.
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Old 02-04-07, 10:19 AM
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Limbs: Bowtech Old Glory - 28" 56lbs
Sight: Copper John - Beiter .039
Stabilisers: Doinker Carbon Elite
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Arrows: Navs 380 / XX75 2315

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All suggestions made no difference - the problem still lies with the lack of clearance between the bottom of the scope and the arrow rest. Its the larger Beiter scope so maybe a smaller one one fix the problem.

I will try and take a picture later to show this.

It must only be a couple of mm as I can hit the 100yd target but they are all grouped in the blue at 6 oclock.
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Old 02-04-07, 10:45 AM
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It's an X
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Riser:
Limbs:
Sight:
Stabilisers:
Button:
Bow String:
Arrows:

Setup
Bow: 09 Bowtech Admiral
String & Cables: Stock.
Sight: Shibuya Carbon
Stabs: MAC.
Scope: Black Eagle 0.8
Launcher/Rest: Golden Key TKO
Arrows: Navi's, Axis-FMJ's XX75's
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I have a similar setup but shorter draw, I use the Cartel X-Pert sight which is Huge and can still hit 100 yards, I have had to move my sight bar in a little, your arrows are a fair bit heavier than mine (500's with 90 Grain Points 26.5 inch) I calculated about 80 grains 20% heavier so that may be the issue, you could try lighter points.

If you have not already done so I would recommend getting your setup checked out by someone who knows the bowtech just to make sure it is in good tune and setup right.
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Old 02-04-07, 10:51 AM
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the arrows are too heavy with respect to your peep sight hieght. lighter points will not make a tangible difference to the speed and therefore the sight mark as it will be a very small percentage of the overall arrow weight. get a lighter set of arrows.
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Old 05-04-07, 03:08 AM
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Sight: AX3000 & 7x Scope
Stabilisers: 34" ACE
Button: Scott Longhorn IV Red
Bow String: RedBack Strings 452x
Arrows: Easton X7 2315's

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String & Cables: RedBack 452x
Sight: Axell AX3000
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Put your poundage up.
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Old 06-04-07, 10:18 PM
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Sight: Copper John 2
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I agree with Marcus, Axis FMJ's are only 11-12 grains lighter than an equivalent alloy shaft! Nav FMJ's, now that's a different story!! I love mine to bits, they are a heavy arrow, more suited to compound than recurve in my opinion, but once they leave the bow they keep going in a straight line. They are very thin too which helps in windy conditions and mine have 120 gn piles in, a good arrow!!!
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Old 07-04-07, 11:58 AM
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Limbs: Bowtech Old Glory - 28" 56lbs
Sight: Copper John - Beiter .039
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Arrows: Navs 380 / XX75 2315

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Marcus

That might be a good idea - its currently set at about 52lbs for indoor.

How many limb bolt turns on an Old Glory to get up to 60. Is it roughly 1 full turn is about 3lbs?

We do not have any digital bow scales at our club at the moment.
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