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Old 11-04-07, 08:04 AM
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Carter Evolution Setup

I know one or two people here shoot a Carter Evolution. I was wondering how much heavier than holding weight people prefer?
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Old 11-04-07, 08:23 AM
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I know one or two people here shoot a Carter Evolution. I was wondering how much heavier than holding weight people prefer?
Two or three pounds more. That way I have a smooth pull through but without punching.

The most difficult thing is though measuring the holding weight.... on the "original" evo the springs were a little heavy if you shot a Bowtech with 80% let-off and you have to take the thing to bits to change the springs! That shouldn't be a prob with the Evo plus though.

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Old 11-04-07, 08:39 AM
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The most difficult thing is though measuring the holding weight.... P.
My Evolution should arrive from Alternative today, so last night I tried measuring the holding weight using a digital scale. While I was trying to hold steady in the valley the weight was varying between about 17 and 18.5 lbs. So if the Evolution plus is set to 19lb from the factory I might need to increase it a bit.

How would you punch this release? I thought the point was you couldn't punch it...
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Old 11-04-07, 08:53 AM
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My Evolution should arrive from Alternative today, so last night I tried measuring the holding weight using a digital scale. While I was trying to hold steady in the valley the weight was varying between about 17 and 18.5 lbs. So if the Evolution plus is set to 19lb from the factory I might need to increase it a bit.

How would you punch this release? I thought the point was you couldn't punch it...
Punching an evo is possible but its not a normal punch. its more of a Yank to suddenly increase the force on the relaese mechanism. Punching a normal release is better than yanking an evo.
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Old 11-04-07, 09:06 AM
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Punching an evo is possible but its not a normal punch. its more of a Yank to suddenly increase the force on the relaese mechanism. Punching a normal release is better than yanking an evo.
Ah OK I think I'll know if I start doing that!!

It's just arrived at my desk at work Feels very nice, but I've got to stop playing with it with a piece of string. People are beginning to look
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The best way I have found to set up an Evo is simply to set it to the highest weight, try it, and then lower the weight until I get what I want. You will probably do quite a bit of fiddling to get it just right, and I have found that I need to set up as a compromise between what I can easily draw at the start of the shoot and what I can manage a hundred arrows later :.

For the record, I finish up with mine set to about 4 lb heavier than my holding weight, but, other than to get a very rough starting point, I haven't found using bowscales to be a very good way of doing it - might be different if I had accurate digital scales, but ordinary spring scales don't do the business for me.
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Old 11-04-07, 09:11 AM
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Ah OK I think I'll know if I start doing that!!

It's just arrived at my desk at work Feels very nice, but I've got to stop playing with it with a piece of string. People are beginning to look
I think a good way to check the tension on the release is to check yourholding weight with a set of scales then use the scales to check the weight setting on the release. it would give you a good idea of the weight the release needs to set off.
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Old 11-04-07, 09:12 AM
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The best way I have found to set up an Evo is simply to set it to the highest weight, try it, and then lower the weight until I get what I want. You will probably do quite a bit of fiddling to get it just right, and I have found that I need to set up as a compromise between what I can easily draw at the start of the shoot and what I can manage a hundred arrows later :.

For the record, I finish up with mine set to about 4 lb heavier than my holding weight, but, other than to get a very rough starting point, I haven't found using bowscales to be a very good way of doing it - might be different if I had accurate digital scales, but ordinary spring scales don't do the business for me.
Well there goes my idea.
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Old 11-04-07, 09:39 AM
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The best way I have found to set up an Evo is simply to set it to the highest weight, try it, and then lower the weight until I get what I want. You will probably do quite a bit of fiddling to get it just right, and I have found that I need to set up as a compromise between what I can easily draw at the start of the shoot and what I can manage a hundred arrows later :.

For the record, I finish up with mine set to about 4 lb heavier than my holding weight, but, other than to get a very rough starting point, I haven't found using bowscales to be a very good way of doing it - might be different if I had accurate digital scales, but ordinary spring scales don't do the business for me.
Thanks Alan,

I got a set of digital scales for £30, which measure peak or continuous. I'm not convinced as to how accurate they are, but I can use them to check what poundage the Evolution is set at as a comparison to the holding weight. I originally asked the question because I've heard wildly varying ranges of setting. At one point Chris S. told me he had his back tension release set to 45lb as that was similar to his recurve! I wonder if he is still doing that. Others have said set to about 26lb, but 2 to 4lb above holdign weight sounds good to me

I'm looking forward to shooting it, but I don't know if I'll be brave enough to shoot it at Drum on Sunday... I've got 3 practice sessions to decide.
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Old 11-04-07, 04:50 PM
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Punching a normal release is better than yanking an evo.

Not sure I agree with that Schme. Both are bad, but at least when yanking an EVO the front is going forwards and the back backwards. That must be better than jerky, twitchy punch. Usually bows, bow arms and drawing arms go all over the place after a punch and bad habits are learnt.

I found it hard to believe Marcus when he said shooting a BT release was better in the wind, but I am finding that it is. Aren't EVOs brilliant
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