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Old 09-08-07, 12:34 PM
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Arrows: X10 Protous/Axis FMJ

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Fragile X10 Protours

I broke 3 of my precious X10's protours over the past two weeks. All under identical conditions. No contact with other arows. Pulled arrows from target (one was straw boss, two in foam targets) and arrows snapped in half in a perfect circle 3-4 inches from the point. Nowhere near the end of the point insert (all with Tungesten points). I am gutted. What's the story here? Are they known to be that fragile? Has anyone else had similar problems?

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Old 09-08-07, 12:43 PM
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I know a lot of people have had similar problems with the Protours. A lot of rear-impacts are destroying the nock end, but a lot are breaking off in targets. Perhaps they are made too thin towards the front, which makes them lighter but also more fragile. But the cases I've heard of were never in foam bosses, always in straw.
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Old 09-08-07, 01:22 PM
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Riser: RH Blue Hoyt Nexus
Limbs: Blue 68/44 Hoyt 900CX
Sight: RH Cartel K-Sight
Stabilisers: X10, Beiter & Cartel
Button: Cartel & Beiter Internals
Bow String: Black 18s Brownell TSPlus
Arrows: X10 500 cut to 27.25"

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Bow: Ultraelite Spirals 57lbs
String & Cables: Black/Blue Vapor Trail Vapor Twist Xtreme
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It could be a bad batch, are they still under warranty?
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Old 09-08-07, 01:36 PM
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Bow String: BCY 8125
Arrows: X10 410

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Heard loads of similar stories Steve. In fact I can't think of anyone I know who has shot them without several breakages. If you are at the club tonight I have a cracking (no pun intended) photo of a breakage from the Grand Northern courtesy of Fugue.
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Old 09-08-07, 01:41 PM
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Bow: Bowtech Guardian
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Yep, seems to a common problem. I've heard of too many breakages and I think a couple of these were from foam bosses.
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Old 09-08-07, 01:54 PM
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On Sunday at the Worcester County Champs the compounder on my target broke 5 or 6 in the first 8 dozen of a York. Also breaking in the same area, also with Tungsten points. Cost is not an issue for him, since he is sponsored, though there was a chance he may have to retire if he ran out of spares. In the end he made it through and won, but it was a close call. Most of the damage seemed to come with contact against one of the legs. Eventually the stand was changed to one with the centre leg spaced further back, and the breakages stopped.
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Old 09-08-07, 02:25 PM
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Arrows: X10 Protous/Axis FMJ

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Allvyn, not sure about warranty. Do arrows ever come with a warranty? I bought this set at the start of the outdoor season, so they are less than six month old.

PaulT, see you this evening.

I'm certainly no sponsered and will think twice next season about buying these arrows again.
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Old 09-08-07, 02:29 PM
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There is a deffiant problem with the Pro Tours, they seem to be breaking all over the place on impact with targets, does not matter what type but more so on very windy days from what i have herd.

I have also been told Easton know there is a problem and are working on it.

I am so glad i stuck with good old X10's this year, As i know they super strong and work just as good as pro tours.

Jon
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Old 09-08-07, 06:30 PM
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I work part time in quicks, and today when i was in, we were all shown an email from Easton. It said something along the lines of X10 ProTour's are getting damaged from being shot into "hard bosses" because of the way they are constructed (or something like that), and that they recommend only shooting them into "soft bosses", such as Danage/foam bosses.
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Old 09-08-07, 09:45 PM
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Riser: Purple Merlin Quazar
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Arrows: ACC 3L-18s, 30ins

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I work part time in quicks, and today when i was in, we were all shown an email from Easton. It said something along the lines of X10 ProTour's are getting damaged from being shot into "hard bosses" because of the way they are constructed (or something like that), and that they recommend only shooting them into "soft bosses", such as Danage/foam bosses.
Bearing in mind the cost of a set of ProTours, I think an email like that is in pretty poor taste!
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