Upgraded my limbs today

[Panama]

Hi all, after reading on here and doing as much research as I could (well as much as I could understand). I took the plunge and decided to upgrade my limbs from the original 30lb KAP Challenger limbs to something with more speed, stability and increased poundage.

I have been shooting at 50 yards for a while now and generally quite pleased with my groupings in the red/gold and want to move up to 70/90 yards.

I am currently still using my original Jazz arrows as I wanted to upgrade the limbs first and then hopefully upgrade to Carbon arrows later (cough xmas prezzie dear wife please xxx /cough ). I hoped that I could upgrade the limbs to something that would allow me to shoot well at 90 yards as and when I upgraded to decent carbon arrows without the need to upgrade them again later unless I just wanted to.

So off I went to pester Perris Archers this morning (on a Saturday he he - sorry Derk/Tony). I started off trying some Samick Athlete limbs at 35/36lb. They seemed quite nice but fairly stiff, although consistently so, and the guys thought the increased poundage was OK for me as my grouping was still quite tight. On talking with Derek he thought that at this drawer weight and with a decent set of carbons I could hit 90 yards no problem ( I draw to 30.5").

So I thought well in that case how much better are the top of the range limbs, knowing the rave reviews the W&W Winnex limbs have been getting and the slightly less rave reviews the Hoyt G3's seemed to have received. (With these things, I always remember that generally on forums those that are unhappy with something tend to shout louder than those that are happy).

So I tried the W&W Winnex ones and they were a noticeable improvement over the Samick ones, much smoother and lighter to draw.

Then I tried the G3's, and there was again a noticeable improvement for the same reasons over the Winnex limbs. They seemed much smoother and just a lot nicer more consistent to draw with and my groupings improved as well.

So the G3's it was and I am very pleased that I tried them all out. Thanks to everyone who keeps preaching "try try try" you are all so right. I so nearly didn't bother and was seriousley thinking of buying the Winnex ones that are on Ebay, Oh what a mistake that could have been, although I may never have known as I wouldn't have had anything to compare them to???

The expertise of the guys at Perris Archery is invaluable and I thank them once again for all their advise and help (my whole family shoots now).

I am really pleased that I have a limb that I don't think I will need to upgrade again anytime soon, unless, like I said I just want to.

[Nick Forster]

Originally Posted by Panama

Hi all, after reading on here and doing as much research as I could (well as much as I could understand). I took the plunge and decided to upgrade my limbs from the original 30lb KAP Challenger limbs to something with more speed, stability and increased poundage.

I have been shooting at 50 yards for a while now and generally quite pleased with my groupings in the red/gold and want to move up to 70/90 yards.

I am currently still using my original Jazz arrows as I wanted to upgrade the limbs first and then hopefully upgrade to Carbon arrows later (cough xmas prezzie dear wife please xxx /cough ). I hoped that I could upgrade the limbs to something that would allow me to shoot well at 90 yards as and when I upgraded to decent carbon arrows without the need to upgrade them again later unless I just wanted to.

So off I went to pester Perris Archers this morning (on a Saturday he he - sorry Derk/Tony). I started off trying some Samick Athlete limbs at 35/36lb. They seemed quite nice but fairly stiff, although consistently so, and the guys thought the increased poundage was OK for me as my grouping was still quite tight. On talking with Derek he thought that at this drawer weight and with a decent set of carbons I could hit 90 yards no problem ( I draw to 30.5").

So I thought well in that case how much better are the top of the range limbs, knowing the rave reviews the W&W Winnex limbs have been getting and the slightly less rave reviews the Hoyt G3's seemed to have received. (With these things, I always remember that generally on forums those that are unhappy with something tend to shout louder than those that are happy).

So I tried the W&W Winnex ones and they were a noticeable improvement over the Samick ones, much smoother and lighter to draw.

Then I tried the G3's, and there was again a noticeable improvement for the same reasons over the Winnex limbs. They seemed much smoother and just a lot nicer more consistent to draw with and my groupings improved as well.

So the G3's it was and I am very pleased that I tried them all out. Thanks to everyone who keeps preaching "try try try" you are all so right. I so nearly didn't bother and was seriousley thinking of buying the Winnex ones that are on Ebay, Oh what a mistake that could have been, although I may never have known as I wouldn't have had anything to compare them to???

The expertise of the guys at Perris Archery is invaluable and I thank them once again for all their advise and help (my whole family shoots now).

I am really pleased that I have a limb that I don't think I will need to upgrade again anytime soon, unless, like I said I just want to.

Nice one panama
It always pays to try different items for yourself, I personally do not like the feel of G3's, but there are loads of better archers than me who shoot an win with them every day. i think I would probably like the samicks from your description as I am used to a firm limb through out the draw.
The guys at Perris are second to none, when you are ready for your arrows check out there carbon try out facility
Nick

[Panama]

Nick, in all honesty I didn't expect to like them from what everyone had said and nearly didn't bother trying them. But thought whilst I'm here I might as well. Derek said he has had the same mixed response from friends. They seem very much a love or hate thing with no in betweens.

Arrows next....MUST WAIT TIlL XMAS, tick tock tick tock - doh!

The try option on the arrows definitely seems to be the way to go.

[darthTer]

Just did the same thing.....

Unfortunately, on a tighter budget. Opted for the new KAP Winstorm Carbons (Really challengers with new stickers..) - 36#.

Takes my weight to 44# on me fingers. Hopefully be able to hit the 90 mark a bit easier now!!!

[Panama]

Darthter, nice one. what draw length are you pulling to make a 36lb limb 44lb on your fingers?

[Schme1440]

Originally Posted by Panama

Darthter, nice one. what draw length are you pulling to make a 36lb limb 44lb on your fingers?

Guy in our club has only 1/2 cut off full length aces. Put a set of 40 Samicks into his helix and was pulling 55#. He aint called big ray for nothing. Got to be near 7ft.

[Panama]

Schme1440 - I only ask as I was shooting 30lb limbs that were wound in a bit and at 30.5" and I thought that that would work out at more than 30lb on the fingers. Yet when Derek at Perris' measured it at full drawer with the scales thingy he said it only showed 30.5lb?

[Schme1440]

Originally Posted by Panama

Schme1440 - I only ask as I was shooting 30lb limbs that were wound in a bit and at 30.5" and I thought that that would work out at more than 30lb on the fingers. Yet when Derek at Perris' measured it at full drawer with the scales thingy he said it only showed 30.5lb?

I think the limbs were either faulty or marked up wrong or Perris' scales were drasticly wrong. My arrows are 28 1/2 and with 44 winex I pull 46. I have wound them up 2 turns and now pull 48. Normally its about an extra 2 pund per inch past the tested draw length. so 40# limbs are mesured t 28" (standard measured length by manufactures). Normall 29" draw would pull 42 and 30 44. This is however only a rule of thumb as each limb will react differently.

[Panama]

Originally Posted by Schme1440

I think the limbs were either faulty or marked up wrong or Perris' scales were drasticly wrong. My arrows are 28 1/2 and with 44 winex I pull 46. I have wound them up 2 turns and now pull 48. Normally its about an extra 2 pund per inch past the tested draw length. so 40# limbs are mesured t 28" (standard measured length by manufactures). Normall 29" draw would pull 42 and 30 44. This is however only a rule of thumb as each limb will react differently.

So in theory, 36lb limbs drawn to 30.5" should equate to about 41lb on the fingers?

[Schme1440]

Originally Posted by Panama

So in theory, 36lb limbs drawn to 30.5" should equate to about 41lb on the fingers?

Intheory yes.