Up Grading Bow ??

[numpty]

I have a Winstar Riser with Challenger Limbs and I'm thinking of upgrading. Any Suggestions Pls. Help !!!

[Shirt]

What's the budget and what sort of thing are you looking for? More jump to the bow, a deader feel...?

[silver streak]

How long have you been shooting? and can you shoot good scores ? I`d wait until I got to first class at least.

[Little Miss Purple]

How long have you been shooting? and can you shoot good scores ? I`d wait until I got to first class at least

I disagree!!! I think the question needs to be why you wish to upgrade and also what you would like to achieve. As a newbie myself, I found a real difference when I upgraded my Samick Agulla to my Kudos - it improved my groupings no end. I then noticed another huge difference when I got my matrix - I only changed the riser due to the colour!! Again my scores have improved. If I want to progress to a high level I have the kit that will take me - all I need is the dedication and practice hours to get me there!

[Shirt]

*cynic speaking*

The Gold Medallist isn't too different to the Agulla, and that shot 1350s with similar kit to what the average beginner uses today...

Most people "upgrade" their kit for no other reason than they see someone else using a particular bit of kit and "as that person is good, it must be the kit, ergo I will buy said bit of kit".

I'm as guilty as anyone of this - having had a play with my GM and cheapo wood-carbon limbs last outdoor season, it was only about 2-3 points per dozen behind my proper bow... and that was without actually having bothered to tune it, or actually do anything to it besides shove it together and guess where to put the sight.

[Tarkwin]

The first thing you should determine is what you want to achieve by upgrading..

it's very easy to drop a load of cash on new gear, at the end of the process you may have simply achieved a lower bank balance and new gear..

T.

p.s. if you do upgrade let me know if you want to offload

Hmmm

It's a head and heart thing. I hear practical argument and I hear retail therapy arguments too.

I fully agree that most bows are very capable of shooting good scores...indoors. Outdoors, faster limbs etc will help with attaining the longer distances required.

All that aside there is a lot to be said for shooting with nice equipment. It has that feel good factor that a price can't be put on. Archery is a very mental game. If you have the right kit, or at least you think you have, it instills confidence. Confidence that the kit is as good as it gets, leaving no doubt that the real work and points comes from you. To blame poor equipment or feel you are being held back by it is the last thing you need.

The most important part of the archery machine is the archer. If buying a nice shiny new bow is the way to make the archery happy, then so be it, just don't expect miracle scores over night.

With regard to the model and type. Very personal choice, go by the feel of the bow in your hand...you will know when you pick the bow up. There is no bad riser out there in my opinion, just some suit better than others. I tend to go for Hoyt stuff if I can, it's just good kit and will always be popular if you sell it on.

As an important after thought. Don't forget arrows, they are probably more important than the bow outdoors. A good set of quality arrows that tune well will make the world of difference. No point buying a Matrix and a set of G3's and shooting Jazz arrows.

[numpty]

Thankyou all for your input. I shoot Easton Carb/ally 620 arrows 30.25" long . I'm quite happy with the Winstar Riser. Got pb of 561 in a league match last year and a pb 538 in a Portsmouth . With the Challenger Limbs. Was wondering if I only changed the Limbs would it make a marked improvment in my scores??

[Wrexham Exile]

if a certain piece of equipment has to take priority on your bow upgrade list make it the limbs.

as these are the power house of the bow and essentially create the shot. most expensive does not mean the best. if you get a chance try a few pairs before you buy - as with most things.


the smoother and faster the limbs the better. you will get a better performing bow that wont tire you out as quick for similar poundage.

from my experience and in my own view, G3's aint up to much, i know a lot of people who have tried these just to change them soon after, older hoyt limbs are quite quick if you can get, and are happy with, a second hand set. the current W&W and border limbs both seem to be excellent.

just go with what your happy with and suits your style.

good luck and happy shooting

Al

[Medoc]

Limbs are the way to go if you are upgrading, Hoyt limbs are usually the most expensive on the market but pretty reliable (apart from the ever twisting FX)

Certainly Win and Win offer limbs that perform as well as the hoyt but at a lower cash outlay, e.g.

Hoty G3 at about £320
Win & Win Everest pro at £250

Both are shot at the highest level and in most cases are capable of out performing the archer, as shirt says what is now an intermediate set up Hoyt GM with edge or carbon limbs was being shot to win gold medals a decade ago.

It is a minefield, I would take advice, as you are here and discuss things with your retailer, and also read up on the products available.