All Carbon Arrows

[JohnKR]

I wasn’t sure where to post this,so please move the post if better suited to another heading.

I have been prompted to ask this due to the thread on Nano all carbon arrows in another thread. I have heard a lot of talk about the no carbon arrows rules at some clubs. How common is it? Does your club have this rule? I have not seen any competition entry forms with a statement to say “no all carbon arrows” are there any competitions that ban them?

JohnKR

[Huffy]

Our club does not have such a rule but there are a couple of clubs that complete in the Essex summer league that do. I believe that the clubs in question shoot on school playing fields so it may be a restriction that the school hiring the field apply.

Best wishes, Mark

[bimble]

a lot of clubs that shoot on a multi-purpose field are often reluctant to let you shoot all carbon arrows on the grounds that if you do miss they can be very hard to find. And if football or rugby are also played on the field you can't really leave arrows lost.

[Bald Eagle]

Anyone shooting on our club field must use alloy or carbon alloy arrows only. Pure carbon arrows are banned as we share the field with a rugby club. No matter what rules are written in favour of pure carbon arrows, you aint shooting them on our field. End of!!!!

[JohnKR]

Although we (Orrell Archers) shoot on a rugby pitch we have no restrictions about using carbons. If an arrow is lost we look for it until it’s found, a bit of a pain but regular offenders are “encouraged” to shoot lesser distances until they are less likely to miss. Btw.I am not judging, I totally understand the logic of the restrictions, and have no wish to start a debate about this.

The point is, I can shoot at the club, no problems, so I will only be affected in competitions, so do any competitions ban there use?

JohnKR

[Watch_Man]

Carbon arrows can be shot at any FITA sanctioned record status shoot. The organisers have to allow any equipment that is FITA legal. If they stop you using your Nano's at any FITA record status event, my understanding is that the record status shoot then becomes a friendly shoot, losing its record status. In reality I don't think this has ever been tested.

Imperial record status rounds shot under GNAS rules however, seem to fall under local regulations and many entry forms will actually state that arrows that cannot be detected by a metal detector along the full length of the shaft, cannot be used. However, strangely they allow wooden longbow arrows

[Stylisht]

You can put tin foil down them (as long as it is the same size and weight) it will not affect the arrows flight so much.

Or... just don't shoot a distance you will miss at.

[grimsby archer]

Originally Posted by Watch_Man

Carbon arrows can be shot at any FITA sanctioned record status shoot. The organisers have to allow any equipment that is FITA legal. If they stop you using your Nano's at any FITA record status event, my understanding is that the record status shoot then becomes a friendly shoot, losing its record status. In reality I don't think this has ever been tested.

Imperial record status rounds shot under GNAS rules however, seem to fall under local regulations and many entry forms will actually state that arrows that cannot be detected by a metal detector along the full length of the shaft, cannot be used. However, strangely they allow wooden longbow arrows

As tournament organiser yada yada yada world record status and british record status tournaments etc etc etc we dont discriminate against carbon arrows, we just have the requirement that all arrows MUST be found.
That could be equally interesting to "enforce"

However, my home club, the landowners (a secondary school) require that we account for every arrow. I once personally spent 3 days with a grass rake and then on my hands and knees searching for a lost carbon arrow shot from a compound bow (large area to cover) and it wasnt even my arrow. The owner (not a member of my club) reported it missing (nice of him) and then went home. After 2 days we were noticed by the groundsman and had to report the arrow as "lost but still searching" which nearly lost us the ground. On the third day, we stopped searching when the owner notified us that he had found the arrow "at home".
Subsequently, we dont allow pure carbons anymore.
Sadly it is the usual case of one bad apple spoiling it for the rest, but its not a chance we are willing to take any more.
Mowers are really good at finding lost arrows and have the effect of completely shredding carbon arrows, spreading carbon shards over a wide area.

Wooden arrows (esp longbow arrows) tend to have a steeper tradjectory and therefore dont tend to bury quite so easily and dont tend to wander too far from the target making them a little easier to discover

[Watch_Man]

Originally Posted by grimsby archer

As tournament organiser yada yada yada world record status and british record status tournaments etc etc etc we dont discriminate against carbon arrows, we just have the requirement that all arrows MUST be found.
That could be equally interesting to "enforce"

Could be interesting next outdoor season as the popularity of Nano's and McKinney II's increases. It will be tested at some point and I would imagine it could be very uncomfortable for the tournament organiser. Do you stop an archer shooting Nano's and lose the WRS of an event or do you risk the archer losing an arrow and causing you the big headaches you have already described.

[darthTer]

so far (touch wood)...I have not come across any competition in Scotland that has stipulated that all carbon arrows cannot be used.

We shoot on a rugby pitch during the summer and have had no more of a problem finding all carbon arrows compared to Carbon/Alloy ones.

I think the worst thing we had during the summer was a wooden arrow breaking after it hit the wood of the boss - the point was never recovered. We did notify the club but have heard nothing since.