clickers

[tel]

Did I see a link on the forum to a video clip of clicker use? Can't find it......

[joetapley]

Me I think.

http://www.putfile.com/banjax/clicker-useage

Watch the eyes!

[Cakemeister]

The guy looks as though he's checking his arrow & not focusing on the target...

[Tobytoolbag]

Originally Posted by Cakemeister

The guy looks as though he's checking his arrow & not focusing on the target...

I think that's the whole point!

If I read Rik's post on 'setting up on the clicker' correctly, you watch the clicker as you draw your arrow, and when it starts to move slightly, shift your attention to the aim. In theory it helps to draw the arrow closer to where the clicker 'goes off', which means that you're less likely to struggle to draw through the clicker... I think!

Originally Posted by Rik

Quick explanation:
You set up your line at the start of the draw in the normal way. Shift attention to the clicker, draw until you can see that it's ready to go. Shift focus back to the target (you should still be pointing at the middle, otherwise you've done something wrong...), complete the draw. With increasing levels of control it's reckoned that you can cut down the "last little bit" to sub 1mm.

Advantages: you can see when you've done it wrong (no hanging around at full draw), you can use the visual feedback to help do it right...
Disadvantages: you need to learn control, but then you need to do that anyway

[gunmender]

Do you not feel when you are nearly at full draw? part of the muscle memory, the string is close to your face and you aproach the anchor point. Time to slow down and smoothly finish the draw through the clicker

[Tobytoolbag]

Originally Posted by gunmender

Do you not feel when you are nearly at full draw? part of the muscle memory, the string is close to your face and you aproach the anchor point. Time to slow down and smoothly finish the draw through the clicker

I can tell when I'm nearing full draw - but probably not to within a few millimetres, which this technique helps with.

Besides, I'm already at my 'anchor point' and starting my 'expansion' by the time the clicker starts to drop... Maybe I'm doing it wrong, or the arrow's too long!

[Kellog]

Originally Posted by Tobytoolbag

Besides, I'm already at my 'anchor point' and starting my 'expansion' by the time the clicker starts to drop...

Same for me, I'm at anchor by the time clicker is on the point

[Murray]

Not Setting up on the point
PROS:
You can maintain target focus
Encourages you to keep moving - otherwise timing can go to hell
CONS:
Can cause issues with consistent rhythm as slight changes in body position can make the clicker position uncertain.
Can cause "cautious anchoring" or moving head to the string to avoid the clicker going off too soon!

Setting up on the point
PROS:
Easier to tell your body is in the right position
Steadier aiming (less drawing during the aiming phase)
Greater control over timing when done right
Bow arm side can be loaded to reduce left/right shots
Less motion can help reduce drawhand tension
CONS:
Easier to freeze or stop pulling
Can take longer to make the shot as you must take your eyes off the target
Shot timing is slower and less fluid
Easier to over aim
Possible to creep back after the setup when attention is shifted to the target.

If you want to know all about clickers and clicker control, I'd highly recommend a subscription to archery focus. There are some great articles on there by Rick McKinney and Mike Gerard on using and controlling a clicker.

Enjoy

[tel]

Originally Posted by joetapley

Me I think.

http://www.putfile.com/banjax/clicker-useage

Watch the eyes!

Can't view it - won't let me download the plug-in either....Oh, well!
Thanks anyway Joe

[Rik]

Originally Posted by gunmender

Do you not feel when you are nearly at full draw? part of the muscle memory, the string is close to your face and you aproach the anchor point. Time to slow down and smoothly finish the draw through the clicker

Yes... to some degree, but you've probably got a range of (guestimating) a cm or more where you are "at full draw" and could go through a clicker. A very finely tuned muscle memory (or a lot of talent!) could get you to the same place in that range every time. But why bother, if you can look and see? At the very least, it tells you immediately when you've got it wrong, so you can let down and start again without all the "why isn't the damn thing clicking!" business... It would also cut down on the other side: the premature click and wasted setup.