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Old 10-03-08, 03:36 PM
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Looking to re-fletch my arrows and am thoroughly confused by the myriad of options and am also unsure of what would probably work best. (I realise I might be opening a can of worms opinionwise but here goes.) Arrows are 31.5in 2114 X7 at 36Lb shooting ranges from 90m outdoor down to 20m indoor. If there's one fletching that might do for all ranges then that would simplify things, however if different fletchings would suit better at 20m rather than 90m then that's not a problem. Having read around I think something along the lines of good memory; durability and decent performance. Clearance and eeking out the tiniest possible vestiges of accuracy don't make me lose any sleep so I'm not really looking for fletchings which would only make a difference to top-flite archers.

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Old 10-03-08, 03:52 PM
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(My 1914 X7s at 36lb draw weight didn't like flying 90m, they dropped like a stone long before that.)

However as for fletchings I have found EP23 size plastifletch vanes to be fair for both short indoor distance and longer distances outside. Indeed the more critical nature of using EP16 vanes even at 20yds has suprised me. However my suggestion would be to fletch something small for outdoors and something with more drag like 4" feathers indoors. Ultimatly try a few out as they're pennies each.
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Old 10-03-08, 04:10 PM
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My main concern (as said) would be 90m. At 36lbs it is going to be very difficult to get any alis that far, especially 2114s (the same spine as I shoot from my compound indoors). Indoors I use 4" Quickspin ST's on my alis (compound) and will be using EP16s outdoors. With my recurve I use 1 3/4" spinwings on Navs and they can reach 100yds, but I do have to bring my sight in a little (shooting 34# G3's with around 32# on the fingers).
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Old 10-03-08, 04:35 PM
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My favourite of all time is the Range-o-matic spinwing applied dead straight and 'catch' just enough of the front and back under the tape to induce a slight forward face presentation towards the oncoming air...if you know what I mean.

They spin Quick, and straighten out quicker than anything else I've tried, they group well at range, don't require 'absolute/infinite' precision to fly consistently from one arrow to another, clear well due to low profile, weigh next to nothing, and score points over some other spinnies in a cross wind. Inside and out they perform ok, but
inside they damage easily like all spinnies...mostly you can save them with a finger nail scraping them back to position.

The biggest factor here is really 31.5 inches of 2114 shaft - next to a composite shaft these buggers are like telegraph poles and may( dependant) on technique require something like an EP23 plastic vane at least to stand up to 'bruising' and give enough correction to your arrow, and soon enough to be viable.
Your technique is going to be a large factor in what to guess at being good for you.

What chance you have enough arrows- or can obtain 4 more- to have 4 inch feathers for indoors....and 'proper' vanes for outdoors? that would be best as a 2114 isn't the ideal 90m shaft to be using - and certainly not with 4 inch feathers on it!
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Old 10-03-08, 05:27 PM
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Hi,

Looking to re-fletch my arrows and am thoroughly confused by the myriad of options and am also unsure of what would probably work best. (I realise I might be opening a can of worms opinionwise but here goes.) Arrows are 31.5in 2114 X7 at 36Lb shooting ranges from 90m outdoor down to 20m indoor. If there's one fletching that might do for all ranges then that would simplify things, however if different fletchings would suit better at 20m rather than 90m then that's not a problem. Having read around I think something along the lines of good memory; durability and decent performance. Clearance and eeking out the tiniest possible vestiges of accuracy don't make me lose any sleep so I'm not really looking for fletchings which would only make a difference to top-flite archers.

Many thanks!
With 2114 outdoors in a stiff wind at 90m I would be investing in a good metal detector rather than worrying about the fletches

If you are going to shoot them for both them maybe Bohning 2" Blazer vanes would be a good compromise as they are designed to stabilize broadheads (so would work indoors) and not produce too much drag (outdoors). However this is just MHO and I think you should re-consider your outdoor arrow choice. Look here - http://www.bohning.com/upload/wysiwy...eUsesChart.pdf
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Old 10-03-08, 08:09 PM
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What chance you have enough arrows- or can obtain 4 more- to have 4 inch feathers for indoors....and 'proper' vanes for outdoors?
I have enough (1doz) to fletch sets for purpose, which it seems is what I will end up doing. This means that now I'm looking for one fletching for indoor, and one for outdoor.

With regards to equipment I'm afraid that this is what I have to work with at the moment. The only thing I can really change in my setup (for outdoors since 36Lbs is fine for my needs indoors) would be to switch to an alternate set of 45Lb limbs I have knocking around somewhere.
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Old 11-03-08, 12:05 AM
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That's a large jump in poundage, might be worth winding your current limbs up to get you there (check tiller and Bracing Height after winding)
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Old 11-03-08, 04:27 PM
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No - use the alus indoors, preferably with a 4" natural feather, and get some decent outdoor arrows, ACCs at least, for outdoors and put RAnge-o-Matic Spinwings on them as explained above.

DO NOT use aluminium outdoors - you will annoy everyone you shoot with every time you go "I've lost 4... can you hold up the session while I look for them?" EVERY END.
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Old 12-03-08, 06:58 PM
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Riser: Hoyt Matrix
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DO NOT use aluminium outdoors - you will annoy everyone you shoot with
Especially if you score better than they are with their expensive carbons! I shot xx75 1916's outdoor last year up to 80 yards from 36lb limbs and did very well at competitions. Was in 2nd place after 2 dozen arrows (at 80 yards) at the Barnsley Albion in September so its not impossible. However 90m is a bit further and something lighter would be better if youre going to shoot that distance a lot. For fletching aluminiums, I found Arizona Plastifletch size EP23 to be very good for both indoor and outdoors.
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Old 13-03-08, 02:34 AM
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No - DO NOT use aluminium outdoors - you will annoy everyone you shoot with every time you go "I've lost 4... can you hold up the session while I look for them?" EVERY END.
you should tell that to the archers of the 70's and 80's who shot aluminium arrows and wood limbs and still managed mid 1300 FITA scores, with all the so called advancements in limb/Bow/and arrow technology you would think we would be seeing higher scores than we are.

F.Y.I. my outdoor arrow set is the same for my indoor, i can only afford one set so as the arrow does not know what distance its being shot at it does not matter, good tuning and correct spine rating are more important

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