angel majesty

[fulow]

I am sure this has been on before. Why is it recomended on the making instructions, to use a lower brace height when using Angel Majesty string material.

[Chris B]

There are 2 brace heights; the starting brace height (the one you can measure), and the finishing (dynamic) brace height, which is where your string reaches as the arrow leaves it. This latter brace height is a cm or so lower than the measured brace height.

Majesty is supposed to be less elastic than others, so doesn't allow the string to overshoot the measured brace height by much. So you can get away with a lower measured brace height to attain the same finishing brace height.
...in theory.

[King Custard]

Thats about exactly how it was described to me by a favoured string maker some time back....that you should always 'bow' lower for the Majesty!

Now I've embarrassed my silly self - wheres the delete button

[wingate_52]

It is always good to have the reason to back up the statement. Another happy Majesty user.

[halfphaze]

So if Majesty strings have to be at a lower brace height, how much would that be? 1/4" lower then recommended by the bow manufacturer?

[tel]

Originally Posted by halfphaze

So if Majesty strings have to be at a lower brace height, how much would that be? 1/4" lower then recommended by the bow manufacturer?

Angel recommend between 5mm and 20mm lower.

[Jerry Tee]

Originally Posted by Chris B

There are 2 brace heights; the starting brace height (the one you can measure), and the finishing (dynamic) brace height, which is where your string reaches as the arrow leaves it. This latter brace height is a cm or so lower than the measured brace height.

Majesty is supposed to be less elastic than others, so doesn't allow the string to overshoot the measured brace height by much. So you can get away with a lower measured brace height to attain the same finishing brace height.
...in theory.

Interesting, that appears to be the opposite of what Angel say on their web site. Angel Strings and Servings . There they refer to an increased elasticity and state that their string will absorbe the impact of the limbs and that the string has a higher elasticity than other strings?????????
This seems to make sense to me because becasue a stiff string will not absorbe any energy from the limbs therefore there will be more energy in the limbs causing magnitude of the ocsillations to be larger.
I'll soon find out. I am getting an Angel string made for my Oneida. If it's not as loud and the tip loops show less signs of stress, then the string will be more elastic. A 60 lb compound with tips come to a stop is a lot harder on the string than a recurve.

[Chris B]

Originally Posted by Jerry Tee

Interesting, that appears to be the opposite of what Angel say on their web site. Angel Strings and Servings . There they refer to an increased elasticity and state that their string will absorbe the impact of the limbs and that the string has a higher elasticity than other strings?????????
This seems to make sense to me because becasue a stiff string will not absorbe any energy from the limbs therefore there will be more energy in the limbs causing magnitude of the ocsillations to be larger.
I'll soon find out. I am getting an Angel string made for my Oneida. If it's not as loud and the tip loops show less signs of stress, then the string will be more elastic. A 60 lb compound with tips come to a stop is a lot harder on the string than a recurve.

Perhaps something was lost in Angel's translation from Japanese to English. They may mean that the string has greater elastic modulus than others, meaning it stretches less for the same force. A material of infinite elastic modulus would transmit perfectly the energy of the limbs to the arrow. The string ought not to absorb energy, as thats where you dont want it. A good trait of the string would be good transmission of tension; high elastic modulus (actually the opposite of higher "elasticity" in common terms), and low stretch. Hence the above expanation is reasonable, but you need to sift Angel's translation through the appropriate logical filter.

FWIW, my brace height decreased about 4mm when i switched from 452X to Angel Majesty

[Jerry Tee]

I am begining to wonder if they have done some thing really clever like making a string with a non linear hookes laws responce. At low stress levels not stretching much. But streching more at the much higher stress levels when the limbs hit the string at the end of the stroke.

[tel]

I'm beginning to wonder if a sub-MB can tell the diff? (cue moo-mop)...my only issue ATM is the black from the serving is almost as bad as print!