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Old 07-07-08, 03:03 PM
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The Arten jig works fine if you clamp it down on a bench.
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Old 07-07-08, 10:53 PM
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String Jigs

I have been making strings and cables for a few years.
First I used a succession of home made jigs.
I also used a jig made by Sherwood.

More recently, I treated myself to the fantastic Yellowstone Dream Machine which is extremely strong. It also has string stretchers.

The other jig to consider if you have the money is this one.
bowstringjigs.com

You may wish to read more about the varying opinions on tensioning strings.
Some string material manufacturers will recommend about 100 lbs of tension.
Some other people will talk about 300 lbs or more tension.
But beware, some tension their strings very highly for a while before twisting and then lower the tension to about 100 lbs whilst twisting.
You may read about tension relating to the molecular make-up of string material.
I am not a scientist. You will have to make up your own mind on this issue.
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Old 08-07-08, 10:58 PM
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Riser: Winact -original version
Limbs: Samick Extreme
Sight: Arc Systeme SX10
Stabilisers: Spiga Scorpion rods
Button: Shibuya DX
Bow String: 8125/Angel Majesty
Arrows: Triple 700s, 110 gra

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Recurve strings aren't so much of a problem it is really only compound strings. The other issue is that if you are making strings for Solocams then you will need a jig that stretches over 100"
Not true. An Arten will bend like a banana, even under normal recurve stringmaking tension...
Sherwood isn't so bad and has the advantage of a square cross section (the Arten's I've seen have been cylindrical, so not only do they bend, but they twist as well....).

Spiga's are quite robust (read: built like a brick out house), but not quite so user friendly - heavy, no feet and tedious to adjust.

I own a Sherwood, which is okay for the limited use I give it. If I were looking for a new jig, I'd settle for a Spiga as "good enough", but I wouldn't mind finding something better.
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Old 08-07-08, 11:03 PM
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Riser: Seven 37/Matrix
Limbs: XT2000/G3
Sight: Ultima/Beiter
Stabilisers: Fuse/HMC
Button: SH Infinity/Shibuya DX
Bow String: Fuse/8125
Arrows: X10 500, X7 2315/Nav

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I used an Arten for the couple of strings that I made - I didn't think a cylidrical cross section was a particularly good and Rik is right - it bends for any string. I was making 18 strand Majesty strings there was a significant bend in the centre of the jig.
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Old 09-07-08, 11:51 AM
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Looks like there could be a little confusion here, there seem to be more than one Arten. My Arten has a black 1" square section base, with feet at each end for clamping, or bolting down.
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Old 09-07-08, 12:32 PM
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Riser: SF/ UltraElite
Limbs: Winex 40lbs/ XT2000
Sight: Sure-loc
Stabilisers: Cartel A/C/C
Button: Shibuya DX/ Target 4
Bow String: BCY 02/452 X
Arrows: ACE 620 /FMJ 500

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Yes, but inside that should be a silver tube, which is the part that bends....
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Old 09-07-08, 01:48 PM
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Riser: Red Inno Carbon
Limbs: Borrowed
Sight: Shibuya Ultima Carb
Stabilisers: Merlin ActiveBalance
Button: Beiter
Bow String: SDM 8125/Halo
Arrows: Navigators 610

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If theres more than one, my club's is the one that bends like a banana No matter how I try to clamp them down, they'll find a way to bend somewhere. Can't be placed flat down either, because of the screw below.
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Old 09-07-08, 07:18 PM
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Riser: Hoyt Axis
Limbs: Winex 44lb
Sight: Booster/sureloc
Stabilisers: Beiter
Button: Spigarrelli
Bow String: BCY 452x & BCY 8125
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OK so far I read it as

Limited budget ----- A & F (£90)

bit more money ----- Spiga ( £150)

Lottery win or funding -- Yellowstone (£ 250-£320 approx)

Free weekend --- self build (£60-£100)


Thanks for all the info so far
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Old 09-07-08, 07:31 PM
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Riser: Hoyt 38 Ultra
Limbs: Hoyt XT1000
Sight: AX3000 + Beiter 39mm
Stabilisers: OK Longrod
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Bow String: Home made from 425X
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Not true. An Arten will bend like a banana, even under normal recurve stringmaking tension....
I use the Arten with the crossbow adapter to make short floating yolks and the spig for strings and cables. The spig is the only one I have had problems with bending. I have to put something under the arm to stop it pushing down when the string is under pressure.
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Old 09-07-08, 08:27 PM
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I have managed to make what I consider to be decent compound strings and cables using an Arten jig. What I do is to put the string (with just the loop servings done) onto an old flatbow I own (using lengths of thin rope to make the string long enough) which tensions the string somewhat (though not to 100 lbs or more I admit). I then do the main servings - having the string under tension at this point definitely helps to stop serving separation when the string/cable is on the bow. I have also had to find ways to make the shortest cable, and string yoke (as fitted to Hoyts) as the Arten doesn't go short enough. What I did is to simply bolt the two sets of string posts from the Arten to a length of 2 by 3 wood at the required distances (some experimentation needed to get this right but can be done -and if you always make strings for the same bow you only have to do this once).

I guess I must admit all this amounts to a very good case for not buying the Arten jig, but I would say it's not quite as bad to use as some of the posts here might seem to suggest. I would love to own one of the "super-jigs" mentioned on this thread but am afraid I can't justify the expense at the moment. I suppose there is a strong case for buying professional strings and cables from someone like Greg Hill, when you consider the alternative expenses involved in buying string making materials, plus decent string-jig etc. If I was of an engineering bent I would probably make my own super-jig, but sadly this is not me...
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