Should AIUK Actively Lobby GNAS To Change Colours

Ahh all becomes clear...

I don't mind the dress code. As long as the GNAS arn't too picky about the shade of green etc. What would people like as an alternative? I go to shoot, not worry about how I look. If green or white pants is the order of teh day, no problem. Most shoots I have been to seem very 'open' to what is OK. The shade or style simply does not seem to be an issue.

[Furface]

Personally I would be against the board being used as a lobbying tool...
But, before anyone says how unresponsive GNAS is, consider: at the last Yorkshire AGM, the attendees were the committee (who had been there in the morning) and a couple of others; at the last Northern Counties AGM, the attendees were the committee (who had been there in the morning); the GNAS AGM was attended by representatives of a small minority of clubs. I believe this is typical of most counties/regions. Now, are the counties/regions/GNAS unresponsive? Or is it that the majority of individual members are just too lazy/apathetic to raise the issues they claim to want to? Or is it that the vast majority of members are actually happy with the way things are run? Before opening up other channels of grumbling (which would be an extra load on the organisation) why not use the channels that are available? Or is it that those with "issues" secretly know that they are not held by many other archers?
And, before anyone says that the county/region/GNAS structure is impossible to deal with because it is filled with out-of-touch fogies who wear cardigans and smell of boiled cabbage (a quote from another internet site!) the way to change this (which is actually incorrect) is to get involved yourself.

[Tarkwin]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell

and in Dorothy Perkins, to my delight, was a pair of green combat trousers and whats more they were in the TALL section.
Helen x

My understanding of the rules/dress code - from verbal communication* of them to me, is that military fatigues/combat trousers are not allowed as they tend to be olive/pale(ish) green, the colour I was 'instructed' as being acceptable is bottle/dark green.

That said the (one and only) comp. that I have thus far entered were somewhat lax on the colours front although the entry form stated that GNAS dress codes would be enforced.

I bought two cheap pairs of stone/light beige chino type things and dyed them in the washing machine - total cost about £10, they are bottle green with the nylon stitching picked out in white. I also acquired a pair of Bottle Green sweatpants from Cotton Traders.

Although I have a green polo, I prefer to wear white ones - they show up the cake crumbs better

T.

* That's right I have never sat down and read the GNAS rules of shootingzzzzzzzzzz.

[Dave]

I agree with a lot you say Furface, but it wasn't until I became actively involved as a club secretary that I actually found out when and where a lot of these meetings were taking place. Yes, I could have read Archery UK magazine to get the details but to be honest the type's so small and it's so badly laid out that I find it painful to read. (Bang goes any chance of a mention of AIUK.... )

Perhaps club secretaries should be more active in promoting meetings within their club. Yes, a percentage of the membership won't bother attending meetings, but it'd be nice if they were given the opportunity to. I'll certainly be thinking about this in the coming year.

So is it apathy, or lack of information?

I'll draw a line under this topic and start another thread.

http://www.archery-interchange.com/f...2138#post12138

[gunmender]

The GNAS rules (307 on the web site booklet) state Green and White but dont go into the shades or much detail,

They do say Olive drab and cammo isnt allowed?

There go all my old trousers then.

If the clothing issue was raised as a reason why the younger members are not keen on continuing, would there be any channel via the youth section for this to be passed up to the big chiefs? Future of the sport etc

I agree with Furface that the commitees are usually the only ones who turn up, find out who they are and have a chat with them.

I have been to loads of outdoor tournaments where combat pants were very much order of the day with no problem. I'm sure very high profile tournaments could be a problem, but as yet I have not shot at a very high level. I'm sure if I turned up to Lilleshall dressed as captain commando there could be an issue. What is the rule on shorts?I saw some pretty dodgy ones over last summer!

[Tinkerbell]

Correction, Just been told that combats are not suitable for shooting line, so ignore my last post girls. But hey just another excuse to go shopping again!

tink x

[Dave]

Please keep to the topic of 'Should AIUK Actively Lobby GNAS To Change Colours'

Anyone wishing to continue the clothing discussion, please start a new thread.

Ta

Dave

Originally Posted by Dave

Please keep to the topic of 'Should AIUK Actively Lobby GNAS To Change Colours'

Anyone wishing to continue the clothing discussion, please start a new thread.

Ta

Dave

OK Dave, soz. My answer quite simply is... NO, I doubt it would do AIUK any favours. Too Political..

[Tarkwin]

Originally Posted by gunmender

The GNAS rules (307 on the web site booklet) state Green and White but dont go into the shades or much detail,

They do say Olive drab and cammo isnt allowed?

The statement is :- S307(e)(i)

The recognised dress of the Society is plain dark green or white.*

S307(c) states

Gentlemen are required to wear trousers or shorts with long or short sleeved shirts.*

and 307(b)

Ladies are required to wear a dress, skirt, trousers or shorts with a suitable top which is not strapless, nor beachwear.*

on the subject of registered colours

307(e)(iii) states

Shooting colours shall consist of skirt, trousers or shorts in plain dark green or white, as defined above, and an upper garment of no more than four colours. The upper garment shall display the club, county or regional badge, name or logo. This name or logo may be embroidered onto the clothing or attached after manufacture
and can include badges pinned to the garment. The colours of the badge may exceed four.*

and S307(e)(iv) expressly forbids camo or olive drab

Olive Drab and camouflage patterns are not acceptable as shooting colours.*

Finally S307(h) warns that

Any archer not conforming to the above regulations shall be required, by the Judge and Tournament Organiser, to leave the shooting line and will not be permitted to take part in the competition.*

now I've read it....*sigh*

T.

* These sections are copyright GNAS, no infringement of this copyright is intended, these sections are quoted purely for explanatory use.

EDIT : Apologies - this was being composed at the time you requested not to post further discusttion of dress code/regulations

EDIT 2 : Apologies again : but as English Bowman points out

S307(a) states

"Members of the Society shooting and officiating at tournaments granted National or World Record Status by GNAS are required to wear the accepted dress of the society as detailed below." - in this case above.

additionally these will apply to any competition/display or event where it is stated that GNAS Dress Regs apply.

I didn't initially post section 307a as the questions I was answering didn't include when the rules applied, but what was considered to be approriate colours...