Whos job is it?

[Neo]

The past couple of torneys ive been too ive pulled jet186's arrows. Both of us shoot compound and both occasions we have shot together on a brand new straw boss. I do not mind pulling arrows and would rather pull my wn to avoid damage but at these events it took 3 hands on certain arrows just to shift them. People on other targets were happy to help and i hope they didnt mind me asking for another hand on the odd dozen arrows.

Thanks guys

[Little Miss Purple]

The job of a TO is a tricky one... if you keep all bow types together on the same boss then you actively wear out some bosses more than others... a problem also arises when you have a good set of archers and want to avoid arrow damage... you are never going to keep everyone happy

[tisrob]

Originally Posted by Little Miss Purple

The job of a TO is a tricky one... if you keep all bow types together on the same boss then you actively wear out some bosses more than others... a problem also arises when you have a good set of archers and want to avoid arrow damage... you are never going to keep everyone happy

I know, but quite a few comments so far are from recurvers pulling compound arrows. Is there a better solution for the mix of styles?

Should clubs provide foam bosses for compounders to shoot on, even though they are heavy to move and difficult to store?

Could better archers shoot on multiple reduced ring versions of a 122cm target (bit like shooting a triple) - GNAS rules permitting etc, etc

[Furface]

And besides, allocation of targets at tournaments is supposed to be random.I think the only real solution is for everyone to respect each other's archery, not to grumble about pulling difficult arrows, or scoring, or potential arrow bending. What causes friction is actually those who refuse to help when approached politely.

[Woodie]

Just have to throw in my 6 peneth.

1 No-one (including disabled archers) should go to a shoot expecting other people to pull their arrows. If one is aware that they can not pull their own arrows they should discuss it with the organiser before hand. To start being prescriptive is just going to drive more people away.
One of the things I realy like about archery is how archers are always willing to help each other but this is based on give and take and good manners. That disappears when archers start insisting things rather than asking politely.

2. Yes there is a problem with straw bosses but this has been exacerbated in our region by the increase in compound archers (and recurves shooting at higher levels). SAA northern area bosses are used four days per year and are now lasting 3 years at best. That is 10-12 tournament days after which the centres are too soft for competition. At current prices that is £12 per day or £4 per archer per day out of the tournament fee. Simple answer is to increase shooting fees so bosses can be replaced sooner.
This year we are trialing 80cm centres at FITA 30m as this is where we think most of the damage is done. This again does not suit everyone as anything out side the 6 ring is a miss.

[bimble]

I shot 25m at a wet Danage boss to get some sightmarks with my X7's and as I now know wet Danage + allies = stuck arrows. I did end up wrenching my shoulder getting the arrows out.

In all honesty, getting arrows that have pierced the stand leg through the boss are easier to get out!!

Originally Posted by sp220

Although to be honest, if you injure yourself pulling out an arrow, you may want to look at how you are doing it... because its probably questionable...

[Mistake]

Originally Posted by bimble

I shot 25m at a wet Danage boss to get some sightmarks with my X7's and as I now know wet Danage + allies = stuck arrows. I did end up wrenching my shoulder getting the arrows out.

In all honesty, getting arrows that have pierced the stand leg through the boss are easier to get out!!

I have some carpet to help reduce that on Saturday

[mk1]

Originally Posted by Woodie

Just have to throw in my 6 peneth.

1 No-one (including disabled archers) should go to a shoot expecting other people to pull their arrows. If one is aware that they can not pull their own arrows they should discuss it with the organiser before hand. To start being prescriptive is just going to drive more people away.
One of the things I realy like about archery is how archers are always willing to help each other but this is based on give and take and good manners. That disappears when archers start insisting things rather than asking politely.

Are you not contradicting yourself there? Be honest Alan, we all know that when we go to a shoot we might end up with a disabled person on our target, its part and parcel of the game. If there is space there'll be only three on that target and so the two that go up will score and shoot. For us ladies it might be bonus time as quite a few of the lady wheelchairers do bring a husband along and they make themselves very useful.

I'd like to think if I were unable to walk to the target I could trust someone to cheerfully look after my arrows for me. We have had the odd archer in a stookie or bandage after an op enjoy some fresh air and company. Organisers do usually have box on the entry form so you can let them know you need help and they will make a point of leaving you space and making sure a suitable person is on that target if at all possible.

[Mistake]

Originally Posted by mk1

I'd like to think if I were unable to walk to the target I could trust someone to cheerfully look after my arrows for me. We have had the odd archer in a stookie or bandage after an op enjoy some fresh air and company. Organisers do usually have box on the entry form so you can let them know you need help and they will make a point of leaving you space and making sure a suitable person is on that target if at all possible.

I've had the issue of being able to stand long enough to shoot 6 arrows, but being unable to walk (came off a cadet weekend where i'd trashed my leg on some stones and went to the comp with my kit on the off chance i could shoot (my dad was going anyway)) and i was lucky enough that my mentor/ shooting buddy at the time (we would shoot against each other all the time) was on the same target as me, so he he happily scored and pulled the arrows for me

[Tropicalshot]

on double scoring we have two scoring two pulling,
we rotate this as much as possible, some peole dont like to score (i do)
split rubber arrow pullers are the best thing that have been invented imo
some peole want to pull their own others are happy to let someone else do it,
so long as one person does not get stuck with pulling everyones arrows,
any way if you hit the centre gold thats usualy the soft spot and easily removable area, so hit gold and stay out of the blue