Scopes on the line rules

[mf78]

What are GNAS rules in regard to using scopes on the line? I've been to a couple of York rounds and its never been made terribly clear whether you can or cant have them on the shooting line with you. Although ive seen people take them up sometimes, I've also been given the impression you're not supposed to. Or is it the case you can take them up, but must not leave them on the line after you've shot?

FITA's I know you can use and leave them on the line.

Cheers

[Robert.Potts]

From the GNAS Rules of shooting (read the whole thing):


RULE : 201 Introdution and General Rules : The recognised bowstyles are given below. Additional information is also provided where necessary within the Rules for each separate archery discipline. The following general rules apply to all bowstyles:

(a) Visual Aids

(i) Field glasses, telescopes and other visual aids may be used for spotting arrows.

(ii) Prescription spectacles or shooting spectacles, provided they are fitted with the same lenses normally worn by the archer, and sun glasses may be used. The glass of the non-sighting eye may be fully covered or taped, or an eye patch may be used.

(iii) No visual aid may be fitted with microhole lenses, or similar devices, nor marked in any way which can assist in aiming.

(b) Accessories Accessories are permitted such as limb savers, bracer, dress shield, bowsling, belt or ground quiver, and tassel. Foot markers are also permitted but must not protrude above the ground more than one centimetre.

(c)

(i) Broad-head, edged, bodkin, silver spoon and any other large diameter arrow piles are not permitted.

(d)

(i) An archer’s equipment must not represent an undue obstacle to other archers on the shooting line.

Whilst this dosent answer the question in its entirity thats the only thing in relevence to telescopes in the rule book (download the PDF one from the GNAS site and search 'scope', You'll see what I mean. Like all rules it can be interprited by a judge, for instance "(i) An archer’s equipment must not represent an undue obstacle to other archers on the shooting line." could mean, "no scopes at-all" to one judge or "scopes allowed on the line but must be taken off at the end of your end of arrows" to another. (I'm sure someone else will correct me if im wrong)


Remember if you are at a shoot and are unsure, ask a judge, thats what we're there for.

Rob

[moo-mop]

The general thing is you can take them onto the line but never leave them onto the line when you're not shooting, hence with all the 3+3 you spend a lot of time setting up your scope. However, I'd never shoot without one on the line myself and never come across anybody saying don't take it up.

[Trunkles]

304(h) While shooting is in progress, only those competitors whose turn it is to shoot may be on the shooting line. All other competitors with their equipment, shall remain behind the waiting line. A judge shall use discretion in allowing disabled archers and/or their equipment to remain on the line if circumstances permit.

[phil_r_58]

I have been to a couple of GNAS shoots on windy days where two archers on my target have pegged their tripods to the ground, on the shooting line to stop them blowing over, and left them there all day. I fact looking down the line a large number had done the same.

This meant that there was not enough room for myself, and the archer shooting with me to place our scopes and have room to shoot. How would the judges on the forum comment on this instance? I would be interested to get an interpretation?

[worthipa]

Originally Posted by phil_r_58

I have been to a couple of GNAS shoots on windy days where two archers on my target have pegged their tripods to the ground, on the shooting line to stop them blowing over, and left them there all day. I fact looking down the line a large number had done the same.

This meant that there was not enough room for myself, and the archer shooting with me to place our scopes and have room to shoot. How would the judges on the forum comment on this instance? I would be interested to get an interpretation?

The obvious solution would be to agree with the person in question that you can all use their scope. If they say "no", tell them to move it. If they still say "no" speak to the judge (Rule 201 d (i)). Other than that, shoot FITA when everyone can have one on the line.

[Jimmy]

Generally when I have shot FITAs you are able to leave your scope on the line while you are not shooting, providing it is not posing a problem for other archers on your target or the line.
At GNAS shoots you do not leave your scopes on the line and usually archers that do leave scopes on the line are asked to remove them by a judge.

There is also another rule that at the moment I don't think has been implemented (but don't quote me on that) and is mainly for televised events that the scope on the tripod must not come higher than the archers armpit.

There is also another ongoing argument about looking through your scope after you have shot your last arrow, but that is another issue.

[Hidden Hippo]

When we shot the Cleve York the judges allowed us to have our scopes on the line whilst we were shooting but they had to be removed when the archer left the line. They also didn't let us go to score until everyone had taken their scopes off the line, leading to a few embarassing walks for people who had forgotten.

[not dead yet]

Originally Posted by Hidden Hippo

When we shot the Cleve York the judges allowed us to have our scopes on the line whilst we were shooting but they had to be removed when the archer left the line. They also didn't let us go to score until everyone had taken their scopes off the line, leading to a few embarassing walks for people. who had forgotten.

been there, but knowing most of the judges anyway. its a case of yeah yeah yeah in a minute.

as with jimmy. lefties. if someone pins there scope down b4 you start shooting . its just a case of oii sorry lefty here....

its only a game.....lol
a serious one......... only ever had an issue with one archer ever...... sorted him by the end of the first day.....hehe

dont mess with the left handed welshman.

[Jimmy]

I've got into a habit of always bringing my scope off the line anyway, whether it is a FITA or GNAS round.