child protection - politically correct monster

[Woodie]

How many of you saw this article by Esther Rantzen in the Daily Mail.
At last someone on the inside talking sense.

I launched Childline to protect the most vulnerable - but unleashed a monster | Mail Online

[Robin the Hood]

She appeared also on the T V ( Richard and Judy ) about it and made a lot of sense.
'Common Sense' being the thing she said seems to have been lost!.....

Paul....

[Murray]

Excellent comment from Ms Rantzen... Too little too late I fear.

[Fuzzy]

You're right. I'm at the age where I'm considering my career options and for whatever reason teaching just seems to crop up again and again.

Then I look at what being a teacher has become: the child protection, the health and safety, the fear of doing anything at all in case it is misconstrued - and I wonder if I'll have a chance to actually help people. Very sad state of affairs. What happened to rewarding effort, chastising naughtiness and competitive teamwork?

[andrew.paterson]

Originally Posted by Woodie

How many of you saw this article by Esther Rantzen in the Daily Mail.
At last someone on the inside talking sense.

I launched Childline to protect the most vulnerable - but unleashed a monster | Mail Online

My work collegue came back from his daughters sport day this week, and was just bewildered by the new rules.
1. No photos by parents at all. All photos taken by staff, and posted on web-site, so parents could then choose from. This is dangerous for two reasons, it makes the teachers seem more important than a parent plus a kid will assume 'anything' a teacher does is correct as they are more trusted than the parents.
2. All entrants in a race get a certificate - because everyone is a winner.
3. No 3-legged race for the kids for health and saftey reasons, so a friendship race instead, which involves running along with your friend holding a piece of ribbon.
4. Parents expected to do a 3-legged race! Now there is more chance of an unfit parent droping dead trying to run than a kid getting injured.

Wow - no wonder kids don't trust anyone, and when they get to take exams they are all suffering from stress.

[pyroarch57]

Here`s an e-mail i received recently.
More idiocy that`s happening all around us.



London Times Obituary of the late Mr. Common Sense
>
> Date: Sunday, May 4, 2008, 5:29 PM
>
>
> Interesting and sadly rather true.
>
>
> 'Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend,
> Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No
> one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth
> records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
> He will be remembered as having cultivated such
> valuable lessons as:
>
>
> Knowing when to come in out of the rain; why the early
> bird gets the worm; Life isn't always fair; and maybe
> it was my fault.
>
>
> Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies
> (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable
> strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).
>
>
> His health began to deteriorate rapidly when
> well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set
> in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with
> sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens
> suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch;
> and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly
> student, only worsened his condition.
>
>
> Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked
> teachers for doing the job that they themselves had
> failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.
>
>
> It declined even further when schools were required to
> get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an
> Aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents
> when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an
> abortion.
>
>
> Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches
> became businesses; and criminals received better
> treatment than their victims. Common Sense took a
> beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a
> burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you
> for assault.
>
>
> Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a
> woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee
> was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was
> promptly awarded a huge settlement.
> Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents,
> Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter,
> Responsibility; and his son, Reason. He is survived by
> his 4 stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, I Want It Now,
> Someone Else Is To Blame, and I'm A Victim.
>
>
> Not many attended his funeral, because so few realized
> he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on.
> If not, join the majority and do nothing.'

[not dead yet]

although esther ranszen started an exceptional movement. it has ,like she says lost its common sense.

the photography issue with archery, is totally ludicrious and we have lost many archery volounteers and coaches through uk sports and other governing bodies duty of total lack of common sense.


child protection updates for example..... how many more updates can we have. children and vunerable adults will have armed guards before much longer.

pete

[Nightimer]

Could the GNAS provide a single PROVEN case of child molestation that has taken place on an archey field.
The amount of time,people and of course money they spend on "updates" you would think that there were more perverts than archers!!
What is all this no picture nonsense.
They are classing us ALL as perverts and I for one take great exception at that.
If some twerp told me that I could not take a picture of my own child I dont think I could control my reaction!!(probaly get a prison sentence).

If we are to believe the do gooders etc there are perverts on every street corner waiting for your child.
I am 60yrs old and when I was a child we were warned about "not taking sweets from strangers" but I dont recall ever being offered one!!
Before someone says that years ago things were not as dangerous as they are now I say one thing--Moors Murders !!
When I started archery, helping a youngster was normal and nobody thought of any "risk" in doing it.
Now that has all changed and I for one will not get anywhere near a child and as far as teaching archery -- forget it.
Leave it to the people with CP qualifications.
I am glad that I will not be on this planet when todays children grow up.
They will never be able to pass on stories to their children about their childhood because they wont have had a REAL childhood to tell stories about.

The do gooders want all childeren to be equal with no winners and no losers--what rubbish is that.
The first thing that you are told at school is " be a good LOSER".
I am not going to say what I think of that comment.
My children are grown up but if they were still at school I would be having words about the "all equal mentality".
It saddens me to watch this country being overun by do gooders,PC brigade,Health and safety zealots and child protection rules and updates.
God help us!!

[Angry Gaz]

The CPP is a complete waste of time. I pains me to ask members at our club to be CRB'd in order to help out at have-a-go's etc just in case there's someone under the age of 18 present.

In order to protect ourselves now, we have introduced a rule that states that a junior cannot be a member of our club unless their parent/guardian is a member as well, and MUST be with them at all times.

As far as i'm aware, nothing has ever happened within archery with regards to child abuse let alone our club, however one sentence quoted to me a long time ago still sends a shiver down my spine, and i quote...

"If a child ever says that an adult has 'touched' them, no matter how innocent the words, people will always assume the worst and believe the child over the adult".

All i can say is, where were/are the parents? It's their child and their responsibility, not mine...

[madmac]

When i went to do my first child protection course i was asked" why are you here "and i answered "to see if its too much hassle we will get rid of the junior club "and the person on the course was shocked , but that was the main reason and even now its a hassle .So comes the crunch if no adult wants to be CRB'd no junior club!!!!!!
Its about time we took a long look at what "experts" say think and do and then tell them to go away or at least live on the same planet as the rest of us
very sorry