Archery Interchange the UK Archery Forum  

Go Back   Archery Interchange the UK Archery Forum > The Pavillion > General Archery Discussion & News

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 09:48 PM
Toxophilus_Archer's Avatar
In the White
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 44
Smile A Shoot Without Scopes.

I judged a shoot today that was bereft of the line of trees that usually stand out on the shooting line. It was not a record status shoot so the town hall clock was not at stake so the organisers made a request that they would appreciate no scopes on the line. This I believe (I may be proven wrong) is unprecedented since the advent of compound equipment. This controversial request only received one comment after it was annoiunce, " Can we use them for sighters", this was allowed. The shoot proceeded quite well and may have taken less time! A straw poll of some of the archers found that some did not use scopes on the line anyway but those that did said they were a few points down. The shoot went very well and was enjoyed by everyone, for once it was not the only the longbow persons (political correctness) but recurve and COMPOUND persons who caused riotous laughter and jollification throughout the shoot. Should we bring enjoyment back into the sport (sarcasm) and ban scopes from non-national record shoots so everyone can have some fun. For those that were at the shoot they know where it was. I have kept the identitiy of the shoot anonymous in case they are quoted as the instigators when this becomes a widespread epidemic and enjoyment is brought into the forefront of a sport. Any comments!!!!!!!!!
__________________
The_White_Wolf
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote


  #2 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 10:04 PM
moo-mop's Avatar
Recurve Archer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stevenage
Posts: 1,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxophilus_Archer View Post
Should we bring enjoyment back into the sport (sarcasm) and ban scopes
I can assure you having groups that are good, but are off the middle will be very detrimental to anyone that actually wants to get a good score enjoying your shoot. That's why the rules allow them. I can't think of a better way to get me to not enjoy my day than instigation of unexpected local rules.
__________________
"A cow in a sailing boat gently moves which makes its Moo extremely smooooth."
How to Speak Moo! by Deborah Fajerman
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 10:18 PM
tel's Avatar
tel tel is offline
It's an X
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somerset
Posts: 3,485
I concur - I am nowhere near moo-mops level and yet it has been proved time and time again that no scope = lost ponts.
__________________
"When all is said and done, there will be nothing left to say or do......"
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 10:24 PM
Bald Eagle's Avatar
It's an X
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser:
Limbs: Bowtech Allegiance
Sight: Copper John 2
Stabilisers: Fuse + Fuse sidestab
Button:
Bow String:
Arrows: Navigator FMJ's

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North Yorks
Posts: 1,251
I thoroughly enjoyed the day and scored a pb for a "non scope" event!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 10:26 PM
grimsby archer's Avatar
It's an X
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Grimsby
Posts: 1,392
Quote:
Originally Posted by tel View Post
I concur - I am nowhere near moo-mops level and yet it has been proved time and time again that no scope = lost ponts.
I had to look up "concur" and having done it, I do too!.
I dont even shoot, but (taking the bait hook line and sinker) I see this as another case of carbon arrows, that is to say, another two tier rule system whereby some organisers will effectively ban perfectly legal equipment.

If the rules allow it, then any shoot carried out under the auspicies of those rules must allow it also.

Was this "rule" banning scopes announced before the start of the shoot or was it foisted onto the unsuspecting at the point where it was too late to withdraw?
It is very difficult to be in a minority and stand up and say "I want to be able to use my scope" in such a situation.
__________________
bring me my bow of burning gold, bring me my arrows of desire....
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 10:28 PM
worthipa's Avatar
It's an X
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,717
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxophilus_Archer View Post
Any comments!!!!!!!!!
Yes, no need for the giant text ....
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 10:32 PM
bimble's Avatar
In the Gold
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Merlin XV
Limbs:
Sight: Copper John + MAC 10
Stabilisers: Arten Carbon
Button:
Bow String:
Arrows: Protours/X7

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South Wales/Surrey
Posts: 1,014
There is nothing I hate more than where organisers decide to throw in another rule at the last second. I once shot a floodlit frostbite and was really looking forward to it and in assembly it was decided "just for fun" that compounders should shoot inner tens rather than outer tens. There were only two of us and we were quite happy to shoot outer tens thankyou very much.

I like looking through my scope as I shoot as I use it to slow down my shoot-cycle.
__________________
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 10:37 PM
tel's Avatar
tel tel is offline
It's an X
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somerset
Posts: 3,485
bit of an aside - but I attended a WRS Fita shoot today that had six sighters instead of practice....how does that work then?
__________________
"When all is said and done, there will be nothing left to say or do......"
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 11:00 PM
wingate_52's Avatar
It's an X
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Black Winact,Jager grip
Limbs: Winex 42#
Sight: Copperjohn with G505
Stabilisers: 31" Doinker carbon
Button: Shibuya
Bow String: 16/18 strand Majesty (R.Young)
Arrows: Nav 610,Fatboys 500 27"

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Bowdon
Posts: 2,153
Did my yearly club longbow comp today. No scopes in use. It was mostly fun.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 13-07-08, 11:01 PM
Hidden Hippo's Avatar
It's an X
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Seven 37
Limbs: XT2000
Sight: Ultima/Beiter
Stabilisers: Fuse/Beiter
Button: SH Infinity
Bow String: Bling Strings 452X
Arrows: X10 500, X7 2315

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bristol (Uni)
Posts: 1,408
Tel - it was wrong quite simply. As far as I'm aware you've got to have practice at a WRS even, much like the fact that you have to allow all carbons (I don't want this to turn into an arrow thread, so lets say no more).

As for not allowing scopes - I would find it very annoying. I shot on thursday without my scope(I'd forgotton to take the quick release off the camera and put it back on my scope after I made the video) and felt that my shot routine was disrupted (I usually look after I shoot then nock the next arrow) and I was shooting much more quickly. Like Bimble, since using a scope I have integrated it into my shot sequence and it acts as a control measure for me shooting too quickly.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Scopes Hellequin General Archery Discussion & News 12 29-04-08 04:01 PM
Scopes Kae Equipment & Equipment Reviews 16 08-10-07 02:21 PM
Scopes Marcus26 Compound Bow: Discussion/Q&A 43 22-05-07 03:55 PM
LH/RH Scopes? Max Compound Bow: Discussion/Q&A 5 05-03-06 09:26 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Archery-Interchange.com © D. Renton