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Old 09-05-06, 02:04 PM
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I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here. I'm not arguing what FITA - the organisation says or doesn't. But in the UK the FITA rounds are shot under the 'umbrella' of GNAS. I was referring to the FITA round.

Rule 304 - shooting states:-

(k) An archer may only compete once(my underlining), the first time of shooting, in any event regardless of the class of equipment used, the number of sessions in the event and whether the event extends for more than one day.

Case of Res Ipsa if you ask me?
Which is exactly what I meant! A recurve and a compound never shoot in the same event... In the same way that ladies and men never shoot in the same event, rifle and pistol don't shoot in the same event... The rule still doesn't rule out double-bowing, whatever the writer's intentions may have been. Someone shooting recurve and compound on successive days isn't competing more than once, they are competing once, in two different events... Besides which FITAs must be shot to FITA rules, I believe, or the star status wouldn't be granted, otherwise GNAS would have us shooting 3s at 90m...
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Old 09-05-06, 02:29 PM
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Sorry Rik I still can’t agree.

The rules clearly state you may shoot once only.

I interpret the word event as the tournament, so a compound/recurve etc do shoot the same event. My dictionary defines ‘event’ amongst other things as ‘any one contest’.

I define different bow types as disciplines within the event and ladies/gents/children are just sections within the event/tournament as a whole.

You then refer to successive days, but again the rule says ‘the number of sessions in the event and whether the event extends for more than one day.’ so I can’t reconcile what you are saying?

If I am wrong why don’t entry forms allow for multiple bow entries?
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Old 10-05-06, 12:09 PM
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Sorry Rik I still can’t agree.

The rules clearly state you may shoot once only.

I interpret the word event as the tournament, so a compound/recurve etc do shoot the same event. My dictionary defines ‘event’ amongst other things as ‘any one contest’.

I define different bow types as disciplines within the event and ladies/gents/children are just sections within the event/tournament as a whole.

You then refer to successive days, but again the rule says ‘the number of sessions in the event and whether the event extends for more than one day.’ so I can’t reconcile what you are saying?

If I am wrong why don’t entry forms allow for multiple bow entries?
As I said, it's arguable The rule is at the least, badly written, but what's new about that...
A 'tournament' is a 'contest of skill between competitors'. Recurve and compound never compete against each other (barring handicap shoots) so are never in the same tournament, by a dictionary defn. 'event' is a much looser defn, just to muddy the waters...

But it's beside the point really. The rules are there to enable us to shoot. What on earth is the value to the competitor in preventing him from double bowing? It can't be said to harm his opponents and I can't see a way in which it could be claimed he gains some advantage through it. However you interpret it, it's an unecessary rule. I could, for example, see some value in a rule that said "in competing for a prize, only only the first score you shoot in that competition may be counted", to stop people shooting 3 times at an indoor shoot and expecting to use their best score. But then a sensible organiser will rule that out anyway...
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