A FITA 90m round...?

[grantwomack]

Looking at some of the scores from compounds and recurves alike in the World Cup rankings from yesterday, is it nearing a time when FITA will need to introduce a FITA 90m round for gents. It would be the same as a 720 round, but at 90m. Separating the top archers from one another is becoming more and more difficult, with 2-3 points often separating the top 10 placings.
Or should they just change to an 80cm target face at 70m to separate the men from the boys?

[bluebow]

Originally Posted by grantwomack

Separating the top archers from one another is becoming more and more difficult, with 2-3 points often separating the top 10 placings.

Maybe this is what FITA are looking for? Nail-biting finishes to keep the spectators on edge!

[grantwomack]

Matches could still be the same (at 70m), but deciding rankings is difficult when you have 3-4 compounders on 688 with no reds!

[MikeD]

Originally Posted by grantwomack

Or should they just change to an 80cm target face at 70m to separate the men from the boys?

IFAA have been shooting 80 yards at a 65cm face for years. I think a smaller face would be a better indication of skill and make it more interesting for spectators. When it is almost all 10s and 9s archery looks easy to an uninformed spectator and judging by the commentary on some archery videos to the commentators too.

[SimonW]

I must admit that when I started shooting (again), I thought that compounds only scored a 10 if they hit the X.

I was surprised to find out they use the same scoring rules as recurves.

I would like to see line cutters scoring the lower value (for all archers).

I would like to see compund archers using the X as their 10.

Moving either to 90m (on a 122cm face) or 70m (on an 80cm face) would make the Olympic round a killer.

Simon

[WhitehartFB]

Interestingly a few weeks a go a few of us from my club wanted to shoot 100yrds but all the 122cm faces were being used on the beginners course, before somebody asks no, they were shooting at 20yrds. So we used an 80cm instead and all of us still managed to average around 40 – 46(imperial) points shooting recurve, rather confusingly this is my average on a 122cm face. I guess it made us all concentrate more, but going back to 122cm I have not been able to replicate the same accuracy and consistently still scoring 40 - 46 although this could also be due to that fact that I only shoot about 150 arrows a week.

I am surprised that the men do not shoot at 90M, would it not put archery back in line with a Men’s FITA. I don’t know but are there countries that only select archers on their ability at 70M where in the past world & olympic titles used to be about skill and endurance (I understand why it had to change format though). I also guess the spread of arrows would not be so interesting TV coverage and for the average watcher it is difficult to get a feel for the distance and the extra level of difficulty from the screen unless you have been there and done it.

[grantwomack]

Originally Posted by SimonW

I would like to see compund archers using the X as their 10.

They did this for quite a while - until perhaps 1997...? Compounders mostly hated the system so it was dropped. There were still a few who reached 1350+ with it though.

[WhitehartFB]

Originally Posted by SimonW

I would like to see line cutters scoring the lower value (for all archers).

Simon

The reason line cutters score high is because the dividing line is drawn on the higher value.

[Marcus26]

Making the targets smaller will make the archers better.

Shooting a FITA inner 10 sucked for the majority of compounders and the sport suffered for it. People (like myself) simply dropped out of the sport. When FITA introduced it I personally quit and went and played basketball instead. Had no interest in recurve and compound was simply no fun.
I don't mind it indoors, but outdoors it's a pain.

[SimonW]

Originally Posted by Whitehart

The reason line cutters score high is because the dividing line is drawn on the higher value.

They score high because that's how we choose to score them.

Rifle/pistol/gun scoring scores the lower value if a line is touched.

I just think it would promote more accurate shooting.

I have days when I'm scoring line cutter 9's that don't deserve to be 9's. They're as far from the pinhole as can be but (on english scoring) still get a 9.

Simon