County/region affiliation question

[whisky]

Next renewal I am considering affiliating direct through GNAS rather than my club. I will stay a full member of my club - they agree I can do this. However I live in one county and the club is in another. Does anyone know if I can affiliate direct with the county AA that I live in or does it have to be with the county in which my club is?

Many thanks

[Rik]

The only stuff I can recall reading on this referred to the situation where someone was a member of two clubs...
In that case it said something about having to notify the county secretary which county you'd be shooting in/for before the start of each season. I don't think they considered the case you put forward.

[PaulT]

I would guess that you could choose, as long as you stuck with it through the season.

[whisky]

Originally Posted by Rik

The only stuff I can recall reading on this referred to the situation where someone was a member of two clubs...
In that case it said something about having to notify the county secretary which county you'd be shooting in/for before the start of each season. I don't think they considered the case you put forward.

Yeah Rik, thats all I can recall and have read in the GNAS rules. I've mailed GNAS to see what they say but just wondered if anyone else had a similar experience

[KevinH]

Whisky,

the info you need is in the GNAS laws, which can be downloaded from the Gnas site. I've pasted the relavent section bellow.

GNAS Law 20 b

(i) No archer may compete for the championship titles of, nor shoot
for, more than one Region or County during a subscription year.

(ii) A member paying the Society’s subscription fee through an
Associated Club shall shoot for the Region and County in which
the club is located.

(iii) An individual member wishing to shoot for a particular County and
Region shall notify the Society through the secretaries of the
appropriate County and Region.

(iv) If, since payment of the Society annual subscription, an archer
becomes a member of a new club situated in a different Region or
County, he or she may, by notifying the Society and the Regional
or County secretaries as appropriate, shoot for the new Region or
County, always providing that paragraph (i) above shall apply.

(v) Within the United Kingdom an archer may belong to, and shoot
for, more than one club in any one given discipline in any one
subscription year; but the club through which the archer's Society
annual subscription fee is paid shall be the first claim club. Only
with the consent of the first claim club may an archer represent
another club at any club or inter-club event. The disciplines are
Outdoor Target, Indoor Target, Field, Flight, Clout and Popinjay
Archery. At County, Regional or National events, the archer may
only represent the first claim club.

[Furface]

Originally Posted by whisky

Next renewal I am considering affiliating direct through GNAS rather than my club. I will stay a full member of my club - they agree I can do this. However I live in one county and the club is in another. Does anyone know if I can affiliate direct with the county AA that I live in or does it have to be with the county in which my club is?

Many thanks

I presume there is a good reason!
The question of whether you can become an individual member of a County or Region depends on the constitution of the body in question. Yorkshire say it is possible - others may not.

[Field Archer]

Originally Posted by KevinH

Whisky,

the info you need is in the GNAS laws, which can be downloaded from the Gnas site. I've pasted the relavent section bellow.

GNAS Law 20 b

(ii) A member paying the Society’s subscription fee through an
Associated Club shall shoot for the Region and County in which
the club is located.

This one is interesting. I know of several clubs that are in one county, but are affiliated to another.
For example, one club I used to belong to, Harlquin, used to be in Berkshire, but when the county boundaries changed in the 70s, it became Oxfordshire. The club is still affiliated to Berkshire.

[whisky]

[quote=Furface]I presume there is a good reason![quote]

It looks as though the question has been answered, but I'll post the GNAS reply once I have it.

Yes I have good reason. Affiliating direct is the only way to exercise a democratic vote at the AGM as the club fails to inform the members of the agenda or the voting topics. I've brought this up with the club Secretary and after being filibustered for some considerable time with 1001 reasons why I can't...... decided it would be easier to join GNAS direct. The club oozes apathy and so I thought that I may aswell take advantage as shotting under the GNAS 'banner' rather than the club name. Finally, living in another county to where I shoot I thought it would be nice to be able to shoot for my own county.

[Thunk]

So, if I read all this correctly;

1) An archer who is an individual member of GNAS can shoot anywhere without a club affiliation, and

2) If a member of (say) three different clubs, may specify which club he is shooting for when entering a tournament.

Or have I got it wrong?

[whisky]

Nearly.

As I interpret it if you affililiate direct and belong to a club too you need to decide at the begining of the season whether you will shoot as a GNAS or under the club name. If you affiliate direct and belong to 3 clubs, again you need to decide who you will shoot for - GNAS, club 1,2 or 3. BAsically you can't chop and change????