Yet another classification thread...

[Tobytoolbag]

Apologies if this has already been answered elsewhere ('did do a search, but it didn't seem to feature), but I've had a classification question posed to me by a club member, and despite a thorough read of the rules, I'm still none-the-wiser as to the answer...

His question is this:-
If you shoot a FITA, and make a mess of the first two distances (90m & 70m for gents) but do relatively well at the second two (50m & 30m), can you take your scores for the second two distances, call 'em a Short Metric round (the ranges, number of arrows, and face sizes are identical to the 'back end' of a FITA), and get a Short Metric classification, rather than getting a classification for the whole FITA...?

My personal view is that if you're shooting a FITA, you should be classified for the FITA, and not for rounds made up of parts of it... But I'm open to suggestions!

[Kellog]

As I understand it if you're shooting a FITA, then you have to shoot for a FITA classifcation.

[robbo]

although i'm not totally up on the rules for this i imagine it's as you suggested. i.e whatever round you started shooting, that is the score you should put in.

I have heard of people shooting a new national, and if they weren't happy with their score turning it into a new western (just 2 more dozen at 80yds).

Bit of a grey area i feel...(until someone more knowledgeable tells us otherwise)

[Flying Whale]

More of a Grey area for a FITA than for Imperial rounds. Imperial rounds only allow for 6 sighters before shooting. Any other shooting on the same field that day is specifically excluded.

I don't know the official answer, but I am would guess it is going to be "you must put in for what you started.

[sky_high30]

On quite a few occasions i've gone to a field with the intention of shooting a western, but curtailed it at a national due to weather/time/daylight.

TBH I can't see much of a problem with doing this and claiming the classification off the shorter round - though seen as in the situation TOby has described you've already shot 6doz i'm not totally sure that it's the done thing. But then again, who's to know?

[Kellog]

Originally Posted by sky_high30

On quite a few occasions i've gone to a field with the intention of shooting a western, but curtailed it at a national due to weather/time/daylight.

TBH I can't see much of a problem with doing this and claiming the classification off the shorter round - though seen as in the situation TOby has described you've already shot 6doz i'm not totally sure that it's the done thing. But then again, who's to know?

Thats slightly different, as you've not shot the other 2 dozen and discarded them. Its the discarding of part of the score that I think makes it against the spirit if not word of the rules

[Little Miss Purple]

I understood that you had to nominate your round before starting to shoot and stick to that. I think the National / Western switch is common, I've done it myself!!

[Furface]

I would say that you had effectively had six dozen sighters and so the score was invalid. The Short Metric is a GNAS round, and so has sighters rather than a "practice". And, before you say the sighters can't have been, because they were at the wrong distance, sighters are not to set your distance marks, but to adjust for the weather conditions on the day.
Extending/shrinking between a National/Western is different because they have the same starting point.

[Flying Whale]

Originally Posted by Furface

I would say that you had effectively had six dozen sighters and so the score was invalid. The Short Metric is a GNAS round, and so has sighters rather than a "practice". And, before you say the sighters can't have been, because they were at the wrong distance, sighters are not to set your distance marks, but to adjust for the weather conditions on the day.
Extending/shrinking between a National/Western is different because they have the same starting point.

Interesting about the Short Metric round being GNAS. I had assumed all metric rounds were from FITA. Is it just the rounds with FITA (i.e. FITA 70m) that are the FITA rounds?

[Furface]

Off the top of my head, the FITA rounds are Gents/Ladies/Cadets, plus Half of each of those, plus the FITA 900, The olympic Round, the 70 metre, the 60 metre and Standard. All the others are GNAS rounds. A give-away is when there are shorter versions called "2", "3" etc for juniors, which, of course FITA don't recognise in teh same groups. The "Metric" rounds themselves were introduced by analogy with the Bristols. Etc Etc.