Timing Imperial Rounds

[andrew.paterson]

Originally Posted by Furface

Apropos of nothing in particular.....
Would it be better for Imperial rounds to be shot in timed ends of six arrows at a time? (Runs for cover ) Any opinions?

Yes here as well.

[Rik]

Originally Posted by ben tarrow

Why dont we just dump the entire GNAS rule book in favour of the FITA rule book instead?

Yes indeed.

Okay, keep the GNAS rounds for sentimental reasons, but what on Earth is the point of keeping a separate set of rules...?

[phillc]

Hi All from my bad memory i remember on a particularly windy day a judge timing some of the archers and warning them that they where taking too long, on chating with another judge he said that there is a timing for gnas shoots just that it gets ignored unless they think someone is taking the when i see him again ill find out what timing is and post it

SIX at a time yeah
what about more bosses single details home for tea in day light and see the wife before she goes to work

[tel]

Originally Posted by phillc

Hi All from my bad memory i remember on a particularly windy day a judge timing some of the archers and warning them that they where taking too long, on chating with another judge he said that there is a timing for gnas shoots just that it gets ignored unless they think someone is taking the when i see him again ill find out what timing is and post it

SIX at a time yeah
what about more bosses single details home for tea in day light and see the wife before she goes to work

"304 (f) (iii) - Two and a half minutes shall be the maximum time for an archer to shoot three arrows...."
As you say, doesn't appear to be too rigidly applied. The real killer is the 'three at a time' thing - I'm another for shooting sixes, one detail if poss. so no problem with scopes ( I'm always losing points because I can't bring myself to muck about setting up a scope each time I step up to the line!)

[grantwomack]

I'd be much more in favour of shooting a York if the ends could be shot in 6's. Helps keep a rhythm/flow going. I'm not necessarily in favour of having each half being timed though. By timing ends for each detail, you are working to the slowest archer(s) in each detail. If you leave the field open to walk up and back as and when you're ready, you are only working to the slowest archer(s) on the field.

Would much prefer to leave scopes on the line (stupid rule).

[BowSurfer]

As I see it, given that there is a limited number of bosses, if you shoot six arrows in a single detail, you will have to have at least three archers on the line together per boss. Then they will all want to have scopes on the line, otherwise you have to shoot all six before you can tell where they went.
As an aside, I have never seen the point of having a scope on the line - do archers really change how they shoot the next arrow on the basis of what happened to the one they just shot?

[grantwomack]

Originally Posted by BowSurfer

As an aside, I have never seen the point of having a scope on the line - do archers really change how they shoot the next arrow on the basis of what happened to the one they just shot?

Yes. Quite often.

[BowSurfer]

Originally Posted by grantwomack

Yes. Quite often.

Is that a good thing? Surely the art of archery is to shoot every arrow exactly the same. If one arrow goes a bit wide, due to a poor loose say, then you try to compensate for that on the next, but loose it correctly then the that arrow will be off the other way - you just end up chasing your tail. I would still think that the ideal was to try to shoot every arrow as perfectly as possible regardless of what happened to the previous arrow - or the one before that, or the one last week ...

[grantwomack]

Ideal... perhaps. But things aren't always ideal. If they were, we'd all be shooting much higher scores. If a shot that I feel is a great loose doesn't go in the middle, I chase it. It is sometimes a change in me, but I've learned to recognise when this happens. A shift in the breeze above ground level won't show on the flags but it will on the arrows. If I can't see where they are going, I won't know they aren't in the middle.
A scope helps me (and many others) gain far more points than it loses.

[Murray]

Scopes - If it were always that obvious that something was wrong with the shot, yes no-one would need scopes. unfortunately things like environmental conditions have an effect on our shooting, as do other "incidentals" which might otherwise go unnoticed... sight coming loose, button unwinding - if you don't see the problems until you've shot all your arrows, you're losing valuable points. It can also have a positive psychological effect to see your arrows in the gold, not to mention the positive effect of shooting a really awful shot (eek that has to be in the grass) and see it sitting in the red ring

6 arrow ends - yep, works for me. Don't think the traditionalists will ever let it happen though.

Limited number of bosses - there's no reason why you can't have 3 archers on the line at a time and still get scopes in there (done it several times)... providing everyone is sensible, AND the archers are allowed to tie the scopes down and leave them on the line.