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Old 09-10-06, 10:17 AM
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6 at a time would be better, but:

The slow archers would take EVEN LONGER.

Imagine not coming back after 3, you shoot your end in, say, 4 minutes.

Slo-mo Archer™ Shoots 3 in 4 minutes usually, so tou're sitting around for 4 minutes, desperately trying to stay warmed up, not to mention seeing Slo-mo Archer™ shooting badly in double the time.

Not sure if the benefit would work, but if the Slo-mo Archers™ of the world sped up enough to not have everyone snozing, I'd be fine with it.

3 and 3 might take longer, but it is less of a wait in between, imho.
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Old 09-10-06, 10:20 AM
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This whole scope on the line thing

I take it no-one is allowed to scope for you then?

ie: place the scope behind the second line, and have someone else tell you the score and position, is that classed as coaching?

It seems too obvious to not have been thought of already, just checking as I have no idea of all the rules...yet.
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Old 09-10-06, 10:20 AM
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Is that a good thing? Surely the art of archery is to shoot every arrow exactly the same. If one arrow goes a bit wide, due to a poor loose say, then you try to compensate for that on the next, but loose it correctly then the that arrow will be off the other way - you just end up chasing your tail. I would still think that the ideal was to try to shoot every arrow as perfectly as possible regardless of what happened to the previous arrow - or the one before that, or the one last week ...
Like you I thought a scope on the line was just hassle apart from sighters how wrong I was proved to be. At a FITA and at 90m, I shot what I thought were 6 really good shots and was expecting them all to be in a nice group in the middle. As I walked off the line I glanced over to a couple of my colleagues and they were staining to contain themselves they looked like 2 cheshire cats. Indeed I had shot 6 good shots and scored 7 points at 6 o'clock white/black. Weather conditions especially the wind do change and where your arrows land can be an indication that all is not right with your form which can easily be corrected.
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Old 09-10-06, 10:28 AM
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I take it no-one is allowed to scope for you then?
ie: place the scope behind the second line, and have someone else tell you the score and position, is that classed as coaching?
Quite correct, PP - when you're on the shooting line, you're on your own!
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I'd like to see the ends shot in 6's and timed like a FITA round. I might be more inclined to shoot a York then. I don't at the moment because of the archiac rules and the time it takes to complete the round.

It will never happen though all the while GNAS is run by 'traditionalists'.
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6 arrow ends and timed for me, please.

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I find that it breaks my concentration to come off the line and go back and shoot 3 more, especially if i have to move my scope. The round would go faster, I don't think that I would tire out, less fuss in bad weather, not standing around with a bow in my hand waiting for my next round.
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Like you I thought a scope on the line was just hassle apart from sighters how wrong I was proved to be. At a FITA and at 90m, I shot what I thought were 6 really good shots and was expecting them all to be in a nice group in the middle. As I walked off the line I glanced over to a couple of my colleagues and they were staining to contain themselves they looked like 2 cheshire cats. Indeed I had shot 6 good shots and scored 7 points at 6 o'clock white/black. Weather conditions especially the wind do change and where your arrows land can be an indication that all is not right with your form which can easily be corrected.
Of course, I quite agree that is true when you have to shoot all six. Personally however, I would not want to change on the basis of a single arrow, two maybe, but after three on a GNAS end I can go and look anyway.
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6 arrow ends - excellent idea! Only glitch I could see would be the need for organisers to get lights/timers which they wouldn't have if they didn't already put FITA's on.

As per Whitehearts post - it would mean that people would need to learn to use scopes more - even down the junor end.
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Old 09-10-06, 12:11 PM
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I find that it breaks my concentration to come off the line and go back and shoot 3 more, especially if i have to move my scope. The round would go faster, I don't think that I would tire out, less fuss in bad weather, not standing around with a bow in my hand waiting for my next round.
I thought that was why you shoot in threes - it is more of a test of how consistent you can be including moving off the line and back.
As to the time factor, is the time spent changing over really that significant? It always seems to me that you spend far far longher collecting and searching for lost arrows.
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