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Old 09-10-06, 12:51 PM
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6 arrow ends - excellent idea! Only glitch I could see would be the need for organisers to get lights/timers which they wouldn't have if they didn't already put FITA's on.
Not necessary. A whistle as the 'audible signal' and flags as the visual ones are acceptable AFAIK. It's the necessity to stick to timings which is different rather than the equipment used, overall. Lights, buzzers, countdown clocks etc are just the "Rolls Royce" of timing gear.

You might even be able to get away with just the whistles, I don't know. I do know that the audible signals take precedence over the visual ones (i.e. don't trust the amber light...).
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Old 09-10-06, 12:57 PM
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I have only ever shot 1 FITA it was timed but shot as a 3+3 then collect, the 50/30M was 3 then collect.
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Old 09-10-06, 01:03 PM
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I've found this year that i get more tired shooting 9 dozen arrows in GNAS format than i do shooting 12 doz in a fita. The reason? I think its due to the lack of a decent rest inbetween shooting.

In a fita, you can have periods of not shooting for anything up to around 12 minutes. i.e. you shoot first detail. You come off the line after 4 minutes. The next detail takes 4 mins 20 seconds. Then you walk to the targets, score, mark faces, and collect, then walk back. That takes a few minutes in itself. THEN the other detail is first and you have another 4 mins 20 seconds for them, then your own 20 secs to get on the line. All in all its quite a long rest.

For some this is a bad thing, as you have longer to try and maintain mental focus between ends. For others it's a good thing, because as long as you keep your muscles warm, it gives them a chance to recover, making you that bit more fresh for the next end.

6 at a time, all the way!
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Yes agreed six arrows would be better ..... now how about we just reduce the time in which you have to shoot them? That should help speed things up a bit..... now running away to hide as well.
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I'll say "yes please" to six arrows ends too please. Timing system needs to be kept simple as the beauty of GNAS rounds is their relative simplicity for Tournament Organisers to put on. Judges could just blow archers off the line when their time is up!! You ususally get a clue when you're the only one left on the line Anyway Portsmouth rounds are timed so a precendent has been set.

I've sometimes spent more time after shooting three arrows waiting for my target companion(s) to go on and shoot their three than I've spent on the line shooting my arrows AT least in a Fita (as others have said) you know how much time you have to relax and can sit down, go to the loo, have a drink etc while the other wave are shooting. Waiting for a target opposite who is sitting 4 tents away and looking up every now and then to see whether its their turn yet just drags it out
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Other than the GNAS rule on how long it should take to shoot three arrows should be more rigidly enforced.

From what I remember of shooting Yorks and FITAS there is not much difference in how long each type of shoot took overall. Things may have changed now as my last 12 doz tournament was 8 years ago.

Also is variety not the spice of life. Lets keep the differences
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Hi All from my bad memory i remember on a particularly windy day a judge timing some of the archers and warning them that they where taking too long, on chating with another judge he said that there is a timing for gnas shoots just that it gets ignored unless they think someone is taking the when i see him again ill find out what timing is and post it

SIX at a time yeah
what about more bosses single details home for tea in day light and see the wife before she goes to work
I'm another one if favour of single detail shoots, especially when you have a 3-4 hour drive home afterwards, usually on a Sunday evening with work the following morning.
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I'm another one if favour of single detail shoots, especially when you have a 3-4 hour drive home afterwards, usually on a Sunday evening with work the following morning.
Totally agree, I am convinced that competitions have been getting slower and slower over the past few years.
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