Shooting 4 arrows at an indoor comp!

[dino1300]

On a FITA found, you can only shoot the required number of arrows, hence the FITA bouncer rule.

FITA and anyone else do not care if you put fletches on or not. That is up to you. So the archer was shooting 4 arrows, and scorring the best 3. Try that at the next shoot and see how far you get !

He may have just been mistaken, but he was wrong.

You can still contact the organiser and inform them what happened.

[Trunkles]

From the FITA rule book
8.6.2.2 If more than the required number of arrows should be found in
the target butt or on the floor near the target butt or in the shooting
lanes, only the three (or six) lowest in value will be scored.
Athletes (or teams) found to repeat this offence may be disqualified

[Robert.Potts]

Originally Posted by Marcus26

The judges should have noticed this and done something.

Judges cant see what everyone is doing all of the time, if you suspect something is wrong or you are unsure about something then bring it to the judges attention

[morphymick]

So, what if an archer shoots 4 tens, how is he/she punished?

Answers on a postcard please.

Mick

[napolienne]

with hammers

[GeoffT]

Originally Posted by napolienne

with hammers

Seems a little severe......but I do agree that the archer was cheating

[ThePinkOne]

Got to say, I find it pretty incredible the judges didn't spot this and stop it on the day.

But no doubt, that was cheating, pure and simple. If the person had been at a club night and not scoring, fair enough, but this was cheating, no doubt.

Were there any other archers on your target (there's usually four to a boss)? If so, I suggest you talk to them too, if three of you report it than it's three views to one, not just one against one (from the officials' point how do they know who is being truthful if the other archer denies it and the faces were not kept?).

P.

[Woodie]

Just to divert a bit I was told at a recent coaches meeting that If it is 3 spot faces then there is a double penalty for shooting an extra arrow.
first the face with 2 arrows highest is discounted (no change there) but also the highest score of the other 2 faces is discounted as the arrow previously discounted is counted again as a miss.

I think the theory is that the 2 arrows in the same face could have been from the first 3 arrows.

This apparently came from a discussion at internationl judge level.

[Graham Potts]

Originally Posted by Woodie

Just to divert a bit I was told at a recent coaches meeting that If it is 3 spot faces then there is a double penalty for shooting an extra arrow.
first the face with 2 arrows highest is discounted (no change there) but also the highest score of the other 2 faces is discounted as the arrow previously discounted is counted again as a miss.

I think the theory is that the 2 arrows in the same face could have been from the first 3 arrows.

This apparently came from a discussion at internationl judge level.

You are right, if shooting 3 spot faces you have to look at the order of the mistakes. For example:
Top face - 10 and 8
Middle Face - 9
Bottom Face - 9
On the top face, you have two arrows, so the highest scoring one becomes a miss, so you now have an 8 and a miss.
You then have 4 arrows - 9,9,8,M - so you then take the lowest three - 9,8,M.

Now take the scenario of the following:
Top face - 10, 8
Middle Face - no arrows
Bottom Face - 9, 9

So taking the logic above, Top face is now 8,M, and the bottom face is 9,M. Overall you now have 9,8,M,M, you then take the lowest three, which is 8,M,M.

Now take the scenario where you have a single face, and you score 10, 9, 9, 8 - you take the three lowest scoring arrows - 9,9,8.

When you shoot on a triple spot you have to apply more than one penalty rule if you shoot more arrows than necessary and have more than one arrow in a single face.

Think this covers it!