They're the wrong arrows grommit....and they've gone wrong

[martin]

I have seen this scenario a number of times over the last twelve months and wonder if anyone has any advice on the matter.

I was asked by a keen junior archer and his mother last week about some arrows they had recently purchased from a prominent UK archery retailer.

They knew what type of arrow they wanted to buy and went to the shop in question and asked for advice on the spine of arrow they needed. The person in the shop weighed the juniors bow, measured their arrow length etc and advised on the spine of arrow required. The arrows were purchased from the shop there an then.

It became quite obvious when the archer began shooting down at the club that the arrows were way too stiff as the bare shaft was missing the boss at 20 yards!

I took the opportunity to weigh his bow and measure his draw length and it was apparent from the Easton chart that the arrows were two spine ratings too stiff.

Given that the shop advised on the choice of arrows, are they legally obliged to refund/exchange them for arrows for a set that are fit for purpose?


Discuss........

Incidentally, if your new to the sport and don't want to get caught out like in a similar way, this article may be of some use

[clickerati]

I'm not a junior, but you've described my situation exactly. All last summer I shot with arrows that were two spines too stiff. Finally this autumn, OB sent me a selection of bareshafts so I could find the right one. Before that, I'd ordered correctly spined arrows from X archery shop, but they wouldn't sell them to me saying they were too whippy.

When I showed them my bareshaft test, they got a bit tetchy and said the Easton charts couldn't be wrong. Well, they either read them wrong, or they are wrong because I'm shooting PB's with my supposedly whippy arrows.

[Little Miss Purple]

I've not had a problem with the arrows I was given from the Easton chart...after having the bow weighed and draw length measured.

[WhitehartFB]

Originally Posted by big_bloke_with_a_stylist

I have seen this scenario a number of times over the last twelve months and wonder if anyone has any advice on the matter.

I was asked by a keen junior archer and his mother last week about some arrows they had recently purchased from a prominent UK archery retailer.

They knew what type of arrow they wanted to buy and went to the shop in question and asked for advice on the spine of arrow they needed. The person in the shop weighed the juniors bow, measured their arrow length etc and advised on the spine of arrow required. The arrows were purchased from the shop there an then.

It became quite obvious when the archer began shooting down at the club that the arrows were way too stiff as the bare shaft was missing the boss at 20 yards!

I took the opportunity to weigh his bow and measure his draw length and it was apparent from the Easton chart that the arrows were two spine ratings too stiff.

Given that the shop advised on the choice of arrows, are they legally obliged to refund/exchange them for arrows for a set that are fit for purpose?


Discuss........

Incidentally, if your new to the sport and don't want to get caught out like in a similar way, this article may be of some use

Were they carbon or aluminium? My advice is to go back to the Archery shop and discuss it with them, find out the reasoning for the shaft choice and take it from there if they made a mistake they should change them.

Re the information - concerned that a new archer based on this could buy arrows cut only 1" past the button, this is a sure way for a new archer to have arrows that are too short in a few weeks time when their posture has improved.

[hooktonboy]

I think the shop should sort this out.

I have a question though that links to this and its specific to juniors. There's a separate chart in the Easton catalogue for Juniors (the "Y" groups), and they overlap with the adults.For the same draw length and weight there seems to be a spine or two (weaker) difference in those recommended in the "youth" sizes to the adult sizes (e.g 1616 in youth, 1816 in adult for the same combination (I tried it on the Easton calculator too - the example I've given is 30# draw and 27" draw length input to "target" and "youth")

Anybody got an explanation for this?

[Thunk]

Having measured my bow weight and draw length a shop sold me a dozen Navigators in 540 spine; I should be shooting 610s. For months I tried to tune my bow to accommodate these, never questioning whether the arrows were the correct spine - after all, I had consulted the experts!

When I finally found out, they said yes, they were the wrong spine but it was too late to change them! That was £176 down the drain!

If anybody wants 540 Navs - excellent condition - I'm open to offers...

[martin]

Originally Posted by Thunk

When I finally found out, they said yes, they were the wrong spine but it was too late to change them! That was £176 down the drain!

A cynic may argue that if an archery shop sells you the correct kit first time round, you won't be back to spend more money in the near future.

But of course, I'm not a cynic.......

[Thunk]

Originally Posted by big_bloke_with_a_stylist

A cynic may argue that if an archery shop sells you the correct kit first time round, you won't be back to spend more money in the near future.

But of course, I'm not a cynic.......

But I'm not a cynic (well, not much of one!) I'm a rational thinker...and rationally I think that if these herberts have screwed me like this once, I'm not so much of a fool as to shop there again!

[Schme1440]

I have heard this happen quite abit. From all the stories I have heard it seems to me that they may just be selling you the spine that is nearest that they have in stock. This again is wrong. My best suggestion for anyone is find someone experienced and get some expert advise from some one unaffiliated with a shop/dealer. Then once your happy go to the dealer and ask directly for the arrows you need. Dont make them choose for you unless you know you can trust them.

These comments are the opinion of the author and in no way reflect the opinions or feelings of this website or its affiliates.

[WhitehartFB]

Originally Posted by Schme1440

I have heard this happen quite abit. From all the stories I have heard it seems to me that they may just be selling you the spine that is nearest that they have in stock. This again is wrong. My best suggestion for anyone is find someone experienced and get some expert advise from some one unaffiliated with a shop/dealer. Then once your happy go to the dealer and ask directly for the arrows you need. Dont make them choose for you unless you know you can trust them.

These comments are the opinion of the author and in no way reflect the opinions or feelings of this website or its affiliates.

I work in that shop you mention and what you say is totally not true all the stories I think you find it was 1 and that was JoeLondon (sorry) and his arrows were changed no question and that was to do with length. There have been occassions where we have not had the correct spine (Aluminium) or the match was not good and upgraded to a better shaft free of charge. We also run a carbon arrow by trial service which ensures that you get the right carbon arrows which you can't by looking at a chart.
Finally we do not use the useless easton selection charts printed in the magazines and catalogues we have a far more accurate chart from Easton.
There is too much hearsay on this forum at the moment aka Merlin