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Old 07-03-07, 10:20 PM
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In fact taking averages from last year I wasn't so even... the trouble is with these sort of results is it is very difficult to draw conclusions as there are not enough replicates to be statistically significant. It is all too easy to draw wrong conclusions about things that just happen to be random chance.
You need fullmonte! It'll give you a sensible upper & lower bound on your potential at the very least.
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Old 21-05-07, 08:02 PM
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This post is proving to be very interesting and I think that it could help in identifying where our strengths and weaknesses are. I've always considered myself as being something of a short range/indoor specialist and I thought that the difference in my 90m and 30m percentages would be greater than average, as it turns out I'm somewhere in the middle. As I predicted, the lowest variation, is a very good compound archer (Marcus) with just over 2% difference.
I also think that the results are being swayed a little by the fact that most people replying are fairly experienced archers shooting to a good (or very good) standard . It would be great to see some replies from people in their first year or two of shooting.
Okay Dave,
1 year in and for a Recurve Archer here goes: -
90m - 20.13%
70m - 24.76%
50m - 25.33%
30m - 29.77%
I think at 9% it clearly shows I have done most of my shooting indoors and that I really havn't shot much at 90m/100yds only in the last two months. Incidently this was taken from the same double weekend shoot at Lillishall a few weeks ago and are the only ones shot in competition so far!
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Old 22-05-07, 12:35 AM
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Okay Dave,
1 year in and for a Recurve Archer here goes: -
90m - 20.13%
70m - 24.76%
50m - 25.33%
30m - 29.77%
I think at 9% it clearly shows I have done most of my shooting indoors and that I really havn't shot much at 90m/100yds only in the last two months. Incidently this was taken from the same double weekend shoot at Lillishall a few weeks ago and are the only ones shot in competition so far!
Very close IMPA - I'd forgotten all about this thread but:
90m 20.30%
70m 24.42%
50m 25.20%
30m 29.91%
(recurve)
Only question I would have is are you getting a true picture by using distance PBs to create a full round, or should you be looking at whole rounds to start with?
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Only question I would have is are you getting a true picture by using distance PBs to create a full round, or should you be looking at whole rounds to start with?
Absolutely, it's silly to add up your distance PBs and expect to shoot a full FITA to that standard. 12 dozen is a lot of arrows, clearly your form will go up and down a bit over the day. One day you'll shoot a fantastic 70m, another a fantastic 30m (which will give you your distance PBs) but it would be a hell of a day to do that at every distance!

Recurve:
21.4%
24.4%
24.0%
30.2%

Perhaps a more useful measure, instead of percentages, would be to look at the relative handicaps of your different distances. That will tell you more accurately which are the distances you need to work on.
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Old 22-05-07, 11:20 AM
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it's silly to add up your distance PBs and expect to shoot a full FITA to that standard. 12 dozen is a lot of arrows, clearly your form will go up and down a bit over the day. One day you'll shoot a fantastic 70m, another a fantastic 30m (which will give you your distance PBs) but it would be a hell of a day to do that at every distance!

Recurve:
21.4%
24.4%
24.0%
30.2%

Perhaps a more useful measure, instead of percentages, would be to look at the relative handicaps of your different distances. That will tell you more accurately which are the distances you need to work on.
Agreed, My percentages (very early in this thread) are based on averages over the last 3 years (not PBs).
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Old 22-05-07, 11:42 AM
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Absolutely, it's silly to add up your distance PBs and expect to shoot a full FITA to that standard. 12 dozen is a lot of arrows, clearly your form will go up and down a bit over the day. One day you'll shoot a fantastic 70m, another a fantastic 30m (which will give you your distance PBs) but it would be a hell of a day to do that at every distance!
Your pb fita is the probably the day you do well at 90m!

This is all true but I find over time the percentages for pbs wouldn't be all that different cf averages, the top scores will 'average' out as well. Depends how long you've been shooting... I was thinking my 30m was my lowest when this thread first came out, well that's gone up and is more like the rest now.

If you want to analyse what distances you do best at though it takes a lot more than looking at the scores directly, eg I tend not to do well on 2nd days of shoots and that'd have to be taken into account. Edit: and stuff like 'Full Monte' doesn't create data that isn't there!
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Old 22-05-07, 11:55 AM
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Fita PB

I posted the percentages from my FITA PB not individual distance PB's as this shows how you shot on the day and it was the 90 that gave the PB, however, I do this with all rounds not just the PB's so I can see how I have done round to round (well when I can be bothered) as the distance differences show up where I have improved and where I lost concentration or other effects.

Distance percentages are good for showing changes during a shoot rather than overall scores as you may have been on fire at 90 but dropped off a little the rest of the day but still shoot a new PB, when this happens pat yourself on the back for 90 then work on why the drop off during the rest of the day.

It is intresting to see that most people are fairly consistant between 70, 50, and 30 from one archer to another (most are around 25%) but that 90 varies widely.
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90m 23.2
70m 25.6
50m 24.1
30m 26.9

That's quite bouncy ballish.. but expected.
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LilMissM's :

Ladies FITA:
70m 21.35%
60m 25.83%
50m 22.51%
30m 30.31%

but

cadet FITA
60m 22.86%
50m 25.45%
40m 24.85%
30m 26.83%
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