Keeping Warm !

[morphymick]

Originally Posted by Tuck

Oh and I'm with MMick on the inbuilt insulation!

Dave

Cheeky sod! I think you'll find it was Furface with the built in insulation.

Me, I'm slim, svelte, athletic......OK, yeah, I do have some built-in stuff as well.

Mick

[Jerry Tee]

Back in my biking days I used to wear a close weave shirt over two base layers then another layer and then a top wind proof layer. This traps two static air regions instead of one.

[cliveanne]

Cotton under socks, woolen oversocks, Hiking boots, perhaps 2 pairs lined joggers, T shirt with 2 woolen sweaters, I have recently had a very lightweight fleece-lined coat in Green (Should keep GNAS happy) which is very warm to wear & rain-proof . Might even lose one of the sweaters All covered with breathable wet gear if needed
Tried shooting the compound dressed in full storm gear the other day as an experiment. Easier than shooting recurve

[gunmender]

Well said LineCutter Any one can rough it ! we Southerners must be clever ones, enough to make things easy

[Yew Selfbow]

Funny this subject came up. I'm in the process of designing a clothing system for Alpine and mountain marathon runners. The key is (as others have said) layers. The base layer should trap air and wick away moisture. One of the best (from my research )base layers is the Icebreaker, made from a combination of Merino wool and Possum fur it offers the best temperature gradiant control of any base layer material. 2nd layer needs to trap air and prevent wind chill and be 30 minute waterproof.. one of the best for this is the Buffalo Wind shirt. Finally a very thin outer rain resistant layer. This should do the trick..... hope it helps

[gunmender]

I have seen on the BBC website that a guy is going to try climbing Everest using the same style clothing as Mallory in 1924! the materials were apparently superior to some modern fibres!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4470522.stm found the story in this link

[Yew Selfbow]

Mallory's clothing was all wool based. If you can isolate the fibres from moisture, wool clothing is better than most modern synthetic fibres. The difficuly with wool is the weight of the garment wet and the time taken for it to dry when it gets wet. The problem with most modern synthetic fibres is although they are very good at wicking away moisture, the moisture has to condense into a water droplet for the fabric to work.

[Tobytoolbag]

Originally Posted by Yew Selfbow

I'm in the process of designing a clothing system for Alpine and mountain marathon runners. The key is (as others have said) layers. The base layer should trap air and wick away moisture. One of the best (from my research )base layers is the Icebreaker, made from a combination of Merino wool and Possum fur it offers the best temperature gradiant control of any base layer material. 2nd layer needs to trap air and prevent wind chill and be 30 minute waterproof.. one of the best for this is the Buffalo Wind shirt. Finally a very thin outer rain resistant layer.

I nearly spat my coffee all over the keyboard when you mentioned possum fur... How do you persuade the possums that having a haircut is a good idea?! I suspect that this Icebreaker material may be as expensive as Unobtanium...

That said, I completely agree about the three-layer clothing system (we've used it for cold-weather sailing for years), although, and correct me if I'm wrong Yew Selfbow, but I understand that clothing designed for active outdoor sports such as mountain marathon running may not be as warm for a comparatively sedentary sport like archery (unless you run to collect your arrows and back), as it's been designed to partially use the excess of heat generated by the body during exercise to keep the rest of the body warm (in fact the main problem is finding materials that vent excess heat and perspiration during exercise), whereas clothing designed for relatively inactive sports like archery where excess heat and perspiration isn't such a concern is more about keeping the heat in.

However, as Furface correctly points out, wearing cotton as a base layer is a big no-no as it soaks up perspiration and you end up colder than a snowman's cold bits. I find anything made from Coolmax is very comfortable and warm enough and I also understand that silk is quite good...

I usually use walking clothing when I'm shooting outside (and indoors as well, as I find it extremely comfortable - and so long as you're comfortable, you're likely to shoot better scores, at least in theory!), and I'm waiting for the day that the Archery industry finally drags itself into the 21st century and starts to use non- moisture-absorbing breathable materials in the stuff that's sold as 'archery clothing'. So how about developing a range of GNAS-regulation green/white (and purple for LMP!) archery clothes for us, eh, Mr Yew Selfbow? I'm sure that if it was warmer and more comfortable than what we're already wearing, we'd be more amenable to wear it!

[morphymick]

Originally Posted by Tobytoolbag

and I'm waiting for the day that the Archery industry finally drags itself into the 21st century and starts to use non- moisture-absorbing breathable materials in the stuff that's sold as 'archery clothing'. So how about developing a range of GNAS-regulation green/white (and purple for LMP!) archery clothes for us, eh, Mr Yew Selfbow? I'm sure that if it was warmer and more comfortable than what we're already wearing, we'd be more amenable to wear it!

Here here Toby.

Go to it Yew Selfbow!

Mick

[gunmender]

Maybe an opening for some AIUK range here??????