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Old 08-04-07, 09:38 PM
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Underwater Shooting (yes.. underwater shooting)
Innocuous question I know but.... has any one ever shot an arrow under water. Not miss a target in a field shoot like I did last year and see your arrow float down a stream. I mean standing in the bottom of a swimming pool/lake etc so you're totally submerged with water over your head and bow, possibly wearing scuba gear adjusted so you get good arrow clearance(!) etc and let an arrow go.

How clean was your release?
How far did the arrow go?

Alternatively, has anyone seen any video of said activity on you-tube.

If the answer to all of these is no, and you are interested in seeing said results, I think we should club together and financially fund this experiment.
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Old 08-04-07, 09:45 PM
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Thats no answer. Wheres your sense of adventure?

oh and no I haven't been drinking....
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Old 08-04-07, 09:45 PM
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I'd have thought the water would slow everything down so much that it wouldn't actually leave the bow...

EDIT: Two minds with but a single thought.
Revised thought: Some sort of parallel limb compound, something with little actual limb movement so it's all done off the cams - that might work? Bowtech Allegiance, for e.g?
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Old 08-04-07, 09:49 PM
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Get one of those James Bond gadgets that he had in the one set in the Caribbean - the little red and white thing that holds about ten seconds worth of oxygen?

Or take the regulator out and just hold your breath...
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Old 08-04-07, 10:01 PM
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arrows would surely 'fly' underwater if heavy enough (witness compressed air spearguns)

as has been said the question is whether a bow would generate enough thrust to overcome hydrodynamics and actually shoot the arrow in the first place

maybe a longbow with a more rounded limb profile would do better than a flat limbed recurve ?

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Old 08-04-07, 10:03 PM
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Darksider......
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Innocuous question I know but.... has any one ever shot an arrow under water.
I'll have a pint of whatever he's had.
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Old 08-04-07, 10:04 PM
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In the mire
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Riser: Nexus (Prostitute Red)
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Bow String: Fast Flight
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This is good, keep going....
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Old 08-04-07, 10:11 PM
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If you haven't been drinking, I'll have one of what you have been smoking!!!
Shocking habit... my body is a temple(!)
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Old 08-04-07, 10:12 PM
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Shocking habit... my body is a temple(!)
but stonehenge is old knackered and noone really knows what its for

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Old 08-04-07, 10:16 PM
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Riser: Nexus (Prostitute Red)
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We're moving off message here. We've got to get back to to the underwater archery solution.

To summarise we're going to employ a james bond style aquatic respiration device and a thin limbed bow of some description to conteract the water pressure.
May i suggest a limb specifically designed to cut through the water?
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